Paul is about right. If you are using something that pushes the pressure envelope you will probaaly have to FL. Don Bowers told me that he likes to bump the shoulder back .001. The Encore/Contender design allows frame stretch, one of the reasons they are just not as accurate as bolt guns. You can close the action on a E/C and "cram" a long case into the gun, but you are pre-stressing the action and that cartridge will not hit the same hole as a catridge that is the right length. I use a FL die and try to get the head space the same on every cartridge, 0 to .002. If the HS is OK, they only get neck sized. Keep in mind I am talking about trying to put them all in one hole and the little things make a difference.