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Heavy Trigger = Very Poor Accuracy?
« on: January 30, 2005, 09:23:13 AM »
I went to the range today for the second time with my .223 handi.  The first time I was out I shot pretty well, but I realized that when I shot I was not making a very slow easy squeeze on the trigger.  However, today at the range I tried that approach and shot incredibly poorly.  A friend went with me who also was shooting a .223 handi.  After I began to get frustrated I had him shoot it to see if it was me or the gun.  He shot with the same poor results.  When he was finished he mentioned that my trigger was really heavy in comparison to his.  So I shot his handi using a nice slow squeeze on the trigger and shot just fine.  I don't know exactly what my trigger is set at because I don't have a scale to measure it.  It seemed like the harder I had to squeeze the more I started to flinch and move which affected my shot.  I know it's not the proper technique to just yank the trigger back, but when I did that my shot was much better.  Would my incredibly poor accuracy all be the result of an overly heavy trigger?

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 09:42:39 AM »
Another issue with the Handi in particular is the transfer bar safety mechanism, it requires consistent trigger pull follow thru with each shot, the trigger must be pulled fully to the rear, not just released as soon as it breaks.

 A lot of NEF/H&R rifles come with real heavy triggers, 6-7lbs and they are a bugger to shoot real accurately. The trigger can be reduced with a little honing by a gunsmith or a home trigger job can be done if you are good with hand tools and DIY stuff. There's a sticky in the Misc H&R Talk forum that shows how it's done if you want to consider it.  A trigger job can be done at the factory also if you happend to send your frame in for an additional barrel.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2005, 10:06:24 AM »
Thanks for the advice.  I'm definitley going to look into getting a trigger job done.  At this point I'm just not comfortable with the way it's set up, so I have to make some kind of change.  A lighter trigger and a few more shots through it and I should be in good shape.  Also, what's the procedure for polishing the bore?  And what kind of results can be seen by doing this?  Thanks again for your help

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2005, 10:33:17 AM »
Varmint Al's method of (barrel break in) bore polishing is in the FAQs sticky at the top of this forum....the moly bullet part isn't necessary.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2005, 12:05:13 PM »
Thanks once again for the info.  Would you recommend breaking in a barrel by polishing it or just use the old fashion method of firing more rounds through it?  I'd really like to get this thing shooting nice and do it correctly, so whatever words of wisdom you might have for a newbie like myself are greatly appreciated.  Thanks again

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2005, 12:17:25 PM »
I recommend Varmint Al's method, it's what I use....saves a lot of range time and ammo, you'll get great results far quicker that just burning powder.
http://www.varmintal.com/ashot.htm#Break
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 09:21:46 AM »
I made a few calls to local gunsmiths and to H&R today and it looks like I'm going to send the receiver back to get a trigger job done on it.  They do the work and send it back free of charge so all I have to pay is to ship it there.  Pretty good deal in my book.  So while my receiver is away for 2-3 weeks I think I'll use the varmintal.com method of polishing the bore. Hopefully after that I'll have my handi shooting decent.  Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 06:08:44 PM »
Got my Handi trigger job tested today.  Stopped by my gunsmith's today to pick up some cerrosafe chamber casting metal.  Took my Handi 223 with me to have him test the trigger weight.  WOW  :eek:  1.5 lbs.  Average of about 4 pulls, ranged from 1.25 to 1.7, with two at 1.5 exactly.  Now that is what I like, I am a happy camper now.  Can't wait till the next day at the range.  Looks like maybe Thur or Fri.  'Possed to snow tomorrow, I think, never know, this is Oklahoma.  Snow in the morn, sunshine and 50 degrees in the afternoon.  Or the other way around.  Cast a couple of chambers today.  One was the Handi 223.  Some interesting things going on.  Will post them tomorrow maybe.
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