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Offline adam

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win 70 stainless vs ruger 77 stainless
« on: January 20, 2005, 02:41:11 AM »
Hi
which one of these rifles would you choose for a hunting expedition far from gunsmith service? i choose this two because they are CRF and stainless,but if you know other brand making good CRF stainless you may give me your opibnio about it too.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 02:59:33 AM »
I own several rifles, virtually 95% of which are stainless synthetic types.  These include the following:

Remington M700 BDL SS
Winchester M70 Classic Stainless
Browning A-Bolt I Stainless Stalker
Sako 75 Stainless Synthetic
Tikka Stainless Synthetic
Kimber M8400 Montana Stainless Synthetic - on its way.

Notice how none of them are Rugers.  Why?  Honestly, I have just never warmed up to a Ruger.  That's all.

However, as far as the CRF and "far from a gunsmith" is concerned, I have come to learn that it is perhaps more hype than anything else - and I myself bought into it in my earlier years.  Yes, in theory it sounds practical, but I have never had any problems with my M700 feeding, etc.

Also, let me tell you this, and I'm sure this will really get your attention.  I bought a Winchester Classic Stainless in .375H&H Mag.  It was NIB and I had a scope mounted on it and took it to the range.  After about 3 or 4 shots, the shells would not eject.  Actually, this was very problematic because the CRF would not allow me to pull the shells out easily.  I took it to a gunsmith, and he told me that the ejector got stuck. Specifically, the ejector was jammed on the bottom and never popped up to catch the bolt as it was sliding back.  I don't remember exactly what he did, either fixed it or replaced it, but it was working fine afterwards.  Still, could you imagine that you are hunting a grizzly or a cape buffalo, or even a wounded 300 pound wild boar here at home, and the dang thing won't eject your shells? :eek:

An argument can be made that this can happen to any rifle, and I don't disagree.  My point simply is, just don't think, like I used to, that just because it's a CRF that it will work flawlessly over a non-CRF.  Yes, the same thing could have happened on any of my Remingtons, Brownings, Tikkas, Sakos, etc.,.... but they didn't.  And it's not to say that it can't happend to them, or the Ruger, or any of my other Winchesters, but now it's in the back of my mind.

Most of my rifles are customized in one way or another - trigger jobs, pillar and glass bedding, recrowned, etc.  On my .375, I also had the action "jewelled" (I think that's what he called it.  Now, the action is soo smooth, it's like a hot knife going through warm butter - that silky smooth.  My Tikkas have the smoothest actions - for out of the box, but nothing compares to my .375's Action.  My advice is get a rifle, any good rifle, even if it's a Ruger, and have it customized to some degree to fit your style (such as trigger pull) and your liking (such as a super smooth action, pillar bedding, etc.).

Bottom line is that you really can't go wrong with either of them.  Yes, despite my mishap with the Winchester, I would still get it over the Ruger.  Heck, I would buy a Remington M700 over a Winchester at times, and a Tikka over a Remington at other times.  Then again, your comparing ford to chevy - it's all about personal taste and what feels good to you.

Zachary  

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 03:21:34 AM »
I like everything about the model 70 better than the Ruger. Much smoother action, better trigger and safety. Lately I have been changing my mind on the control round feed actions over the push feed. I have a new Kimber 84 and it does not feed nearly as consistent as any push feed action. I think in the future I will sstick to the push feed actions.

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 04:15:09 AM »
I have one of each. Overall I'd give the nod to the M77. The M70 is smoother buy has a tupperware stock. You can get a good laminated stock on the M77. Yes the M77 USUALLY has a bad trigger but not always. For the same money you can get the trigger replaced and still have the same money in the M77 as the M70 AND a better stock.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 06:15:57 AM »
Both have to have their triggers adjusted that is a given. The rings on a Ruger should be lapped as well unless you want to ding your scope. Other then that it(M77) is one super rugged rifle. It has a spring steel extractor whereas the Model 70 has a cast extractor. Probably handles a burst case better and I am sure shoots better out of the box then the M70. If you want something super accurate and rugged as well look at a Sako 75 SS or a Remington 700 BDL SS or the new XCR they are coming out with..
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