If you really want to get past the sales hype and look at the info you will find that the short mag and the super short mag craze is 90% sales pitch and 10% reality. First the 10% true they fit in a short action but then again why bother? If you want a short fast handling woods rifle then would not a .338 or .358 be better then a small bore? If we are looking for long range stuff then a short fast rifle is not the choice. It is all a balance of compromise. If you load the cartridges to the same pressures, for example the .300 Win mag against the 300 short mag the .300 Win mag wins hands down 55,000 to the stubby guy at 65,000 psi. mabe I am old fashioned but what is the point. A short fast handling rifle chambered for a long range cartridge, it is sort of like saying I want the practicality of a 4X4 and the performance of a lamborgini, it does not work!!!