Need help a new gun a Rem ADL 25 06 or a vanguard 257 wby!

[varmit_master]

Hi i am going to get a new gun for chris max a Rem 700 ADL black stock 25 06 or a WBY vanguard 257 wby it is going to cost me to be the ADL 25 06 435.00 total and the gun store in town said the 257 wby would be 380.00 + tax whick one would work the best i am going to us it on coyotes mostly and load a 75gr v-max or a 85gr Nosler BT for it the only thing i dont like about the wby is how high the brass is i have a 300 wby mag now so which one would be the best to get thanks for any help i can get VM

[safetysheriff]

I'd expect the Rem' to be somewhat the more accurate of the two; and I'd expect it's somewhat milder cartridge to give me longer barrel life.

I'd go with the .25-06.

Good hunting to you,

SS'

[270Handiman]

The vanguard is a nice rifle.  I don't think you can beat the 257 wby as far as ballistics in a $380 rifle.  But loading for it is a bit pricey.  All in all, I'd go with the Vanguard.

[victorcharlie]

If your going to shoot it a lot, the 25.06 IMHO would be the better choice as the .257 would be harder on barrels.  The ammo for the .257 is harder to find, and more expensive.  The .257 burns more powder, and has more recoil.  25.06 brass can be made from any of the 30.06 family of cartridges.

[NYH1]

I would go will the Remington. The 25-06 is a really hot little round that shoots just as flat or maybe a tad flatter then the 270 Win. and 280 Rem. I had a Remington model 700 "Classic" in 25-06. I cry every time I think of that rifle. :evil:  I wish I would have keep it. I traded it to get a 700 "Classic" in 280 Rem. (I'll never get rid of this rifle :grin: ) I wanted to go a little heavier them the 25-06 and at the time couldn't afford both of them!  
I don't know to much about Weatherby cartridges, other then they are usually the hottest or around the hottest cartridges in their given caliber!
The last I knew the Weatherby Vanguard wasn't even made by Weatherby. They were made by a Japanese company, and there was a major recall for a safety problem. My friend tried selling me one in 7mm-08 Rem. as I looked into them more I found this out. This was about 5 years ago so maybe they took care of it!
Personally I would spend the extra $55 and get the American made rifle and live happily ever after! Good luck!

[Zachary]

Frankly, I'm kinda surprised that the Wby Vanguard is noticeably less expensive than the Remington ADL. :?   I know that the Vanguards are essentially Howas, or at least their actions are, but their barrels are not.

I own many remingtons and they have proved to be excellent rifles.  Still, the Vanugards are no slouch either.  I'd say that, with regard to which rifle, it's a tough call.

With regards to cartridge, the .25-06 may not be as fast as the .257Wby, but, as was stated before, the ammo is not as readily available and even then it is noticeably more expensive.  Keeping in mind that the Wby is hotter, if you shoot a lot, then barrel life may become an issue.  For these reasons, I would opt for the 25-06.

Back to the rifle selection, I know that it is not on your list, but you should take a look at the Tikka.  I own a Tikka Laminated SS, coincidentally in .25-06, and it shoots 1 ragged hole at 100 yards with Federal Premium 117 grain Sierra Boat-Tail ammo.  The Laminated Stock is kinda heavy, but perhaps that aids in my better shooting.  Still, you can always get the Tikka in the Synthetic Stock, of which most of my other Tikkas are.  The quality of the Tikkas are above that of the Remingtons, and the prices are competitive.  Still, if you really want the Remington ADL, you can't go wrong.

Zachary

[Lawdog]

varmit_master,

i am going to us it on coyotes mostly and load a 75gr v-max or a 85gr Nosler BT for it

Seeing that this is what you plan on using it for why not get the Vanguard in a .25-06?  You don't need the power of the .257 Weatherby for this use.  Both are great cartridges but the .25-06 is the better choice when considering varmints.  Lawdog
 

[mountainview]

V-Master,

Go with the one that floats your boat is the main thing. If the shekels available for shooting are a mite tight, the 25-06 will be cheaper in the long run and let you get in more trigger time without declaring Chapter 11. Like yourself, I have toyed with the idea of a 257 Wby but the ammo costs really make me pause and think.

BTW I still have my Rem 700 25-06 which is the first rifle I bought and hunted with, it is still my goto rig for deer season.

[varmit_master]

Hi i like both rifles But 20.00 for 20 rds of brass or 15.00 dollars for 20 rds of once fired 257 wby brass is a little high you can get new 25 06 brass for 26.00 dollars a 100 rds or cheaper if you go with once fired i dont even need my 300 wby i havent killed a deer with it in a few yrs i used my 22 250 to fill my doe tag so in the long run the 25 06 would do me better for what i want it for i mite deer hunt with it a little BUT i mostly am a coyote hunter   i think i will look more that a 25 06 thanks for your help VM

[NYH1]

varmit_master, just wait until you see what a 25-06 will do to a coyote! Its about like using an M1 Abrams tank against an Iraqi armored personal carrier ( AKA a small car or a camel :-D )! I highly recommend it! :toast:  :gulp:

[pastorp]

While I agree that either caliber is more than needed for coyotes, that was not the question. Of the two choices I would choose the weatherby if I reloaded and the remington if I did not. With modern steels and reasonable care the 257WM is not a barrel burner as someone stated. I have owned both rifles in question and personally prefer the vangard. Either will give you fine accuracy with the right load. As far as warranty goes weatherby stands behind the vandgard with usa based service, which is better than remingtons service if you can believe recent reports. Hope this opinion helps, Byron

[NYH1]

As far as warranty goes weatherby stands behind the vandgard with usa based service, which is better than remingtons service if you can believe recent reports. Hope this opinion helps, Byron

pastorp, I'm sure Weatherby does stand behind all their products. Weatherby is a first class company from everything I've ever heard! I know for a fact that Remington stands behind their products too. I just had trouble with Remington 870 Express 12 gauge. Remington more then went out of their way to help me!

[Warthog]

Buy 'em both.  Use the Remington as a door stop, and go hunting with the Weatherby.

[dave375hh]

If you always wanted a Weatherby, but "settle" for a 25-06, You'll end up buying two guns(not a bad thing just expensive). It's CHRISTmas, make yourself happy!

[varmit_master]

HI i would like to have both But my wife is buying it for me and i have a Rem 700 BDL SS DM 300 wby mag so i have one wby rifle so i think i will go with the 25 06 because you can reload alot cheaper VM