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Offline Lawdog

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Why Did Remington........
« on: July 26, 2004, 12:26:12 PM »
This got touched on a little but I would like everyones opinion.  Can anyone explain why Remington dropped two of their best selling cartridges from their standard line of rifles(not talking about anything from their custom shop), the .338 Winchester Magnum and the .375 H&H(both of these rounds were outselling the RUM counterparts)? Also gone is the .416 Remington Magnum. Went to their web site and did a search for these three cartridges and zip, zero, etc.. Just think that if Remington has to drop the .338 & .375 RUM’s then Remington’s big bore will be their M673 in .350 Rem. Mag..  Lawdog
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Why Did Remington........
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2004, 12:37:04 PM »
i read recently in Guns and Ammo that anything bigger than .30 doesn't sell well in america.  If memory serves they even said that those lines of rifles don't make any money.

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Why Did Remington........
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2004, 01:25:38 PM »
Uuuuummmm----just par for the course------bad business decisions to go along with their bad rifles-----What is the surprise exactly???

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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2004, 01:42:05 PM »
Although Remington's quality has gone down in my opinion, I personally wouldn't say that their rifles are necessarily bad.  As far as the .338, .375, and .416 are concerned, I'll address each separately.

1 .338.  This is essentially an elk cartridge.  Sure, you can use it for bear, and even mule deer on a combo hunt.  Recoil is much more than a .300 Win Mag and it can take an elk almost as effectively as a .338 with the same bullet placement (through the lungs).  I own a .338, but I use it for really big hogs and perhaps may use it for elk some day.  I own a Winchester Classic Stainless in this cartridge.

2.  .375H&H.  This is the minimum caliber for dangerous game in most African states and thus is probably the most popular.  I'm thinking that many people have fallen victim to the hype about how you need a controlled round feed for dangerous game (and I admit that I was one of those people).  So maybe people who buy .375s usually buy Winchester.  I own a Winchester Classic Stainless in this cartrdge also, although it has been heavily customized.  It is, surprisingly, my most accurate rifle.

3.  .416 Rem.  This is a great cartridge with no where to go.  When it was first introduced some years ago, the thought was to fill in the gap between the .375 and the .458.  It sounded like a good idea but, for whatever reason, it wasn't a big seller.  Perhaps the controlled round feed thing also played a factor.  I do not currently own a .416 Rem Mag, and I don't think that I will, especially now after the news.

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2004, 03:47:42 PM »
From an Alaskan's view point: the .338 is one of the most popular calibers up here. And, the .375 is the first or second when big bears are around.  The .416 is carried by a few guides as backup but not necessarly by everone.

The only more popular caliber is the 30/06. And then, only up to the big bears.

But, the argument is certainly a valid one on Remingtons part.  Not many travel to Alaska and will ever need the power of these three. Personally I would love a .35 with a little more power than the Whelen.  Something just a little less than the .358 Norma Mag.
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Why Did Remington........
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2004, 11:59:35 AM »
For whatever it's worth, I would think that the frivolous lawsuits have done more to drive these kinds of decisions than has the lack of inspiration at Remington management.    Profit margins in the firearm business are problematic lately I would expect.      

We recently worked with three of the Model 700's at a friends range......and they will seemingly shoot with the best of the factory rifles out there right now.     And who puts a more 'tuneable' trigger on a factory rifle than Remington does on their Model 700?    The only rifle I'd rather own over a Remington is a Ruger stainless in all-weather configuration.......as far as factory rifles go.    

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