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Offline Steve P

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.17 HRM / .17 Mach 2 convertible
« on: April 23, 2004, 03:23:28 PM »
:D   HELP!!

I saw a photo of the new single six hunter in .17 HRM.  Wow, ain't she sweet!  Wanted one with the new Mach II cylinder (.22 rf necked down to .17).  Ruger is not sure they will make one.  I have called Ruger and have called Davidson's (Ruger makes more special guns for them than anyone else.)  If you would like to have the .17 HRM / .17 Mach II convertible, please join me in letting Ruger and Davidson's know so we can get one on the market.....well....yes, I would settle for the single six in blue,  BUT THE HUNTER SURE LOOKS NICE!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2004, 06:35:26 AM »
I'd bet that if the .17M2 has any noticable success, that we'll see a convertable version.  I personally don't see much that these .17s will do that cannot be done just as well and cheaper than with the .22/.22mag.  I'm buying a .22 Hunter myself.  Be a great little sister to my 45 Hunter but I'll wait until the initail demand for the "new gun" wears down and prices drop a little.  Not likely paying more for a std production model than I did for my 45 Hunter.  Cheapest I've seen so far is $500.
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.17 HRM / .17 Mach 2 convertible
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2004, 04:58:59 PM »
Ruger has a MSRP of $650 on the 22 Hunter.  That is crazzzy.  I would think they would have to come down on that once the initial ones are sold to those who cannot wait.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2004, 01:42:39 AM »
A 17 convertable might make more sense than a 22 since both 17 rimfires use the same diameter bullet while the 22's have a 223 bullet in one and a 224 bullet in the other which leads to accuracy comprimises.

So far, my doubts about the 17 Mach 2 center on the suggested price.  Its not enough cheaper than the 17 HMR to make it worthwhile in a revolver.  I'm waiting to see if Browning will chamber their 22 pistol for it.

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.17 HRM / .17 Mach 2 convertible
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2004, 12:10:28 PM »
If you ever see a gun tagged witht he full MSRP, you're in the wrong shop!  I've already seen the Hunters selling @ $500 and one below that.  It's the dealers that jack up the prices to feed of the hunrgy folks that just gotta have it now.  

  As for a HM2 Browning...yes they will be chambering it in their Buckmark models.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2004, 05:49:29 PM »
I agree with ya, nobody pays retail, most are generally about $125-150 below that.  But I think that  even at that $500 ballpark you mention is awfull pricey for a single action 22.  Heck I was looking at the 41 version the other day and it was $500.  I thought that was bad enough for a centerfire, much less a 22.  Just my opinion though.

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fun yeah..
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2004, 10:38:52 AM »
I'd be stoked to have a 17m4 in a Ruger Single six, but you can't have a rimfire/centerfire convertible... Not unless they modified the hammer somehow to strike in 2 different spots..

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Re: fun yeah..
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2004, 05:15:11 AM »
Quote from: Nate C
I'd be stoked to have a 17m4 in a Ruger Single six, but you can't have a rimfire/centerfire convertible... Not unless they modified the hammer somehow to strike in 2 different spots..

Nate C


Thompson/Center did it, so it can be done.  I don't know that it would be cost effective to do it on a revolver, but it would be cool.  And if they did that, maybe they could do a .22 LR/Magnum/22 Hornet convertible while they were at it.

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Yup TC did it...
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2004, 08:08:28 AM »
Sure anything can be done, with enough time and money :)

The main difference between the TC and the Ruger is that TC has a selective hammer for changing between rimfire and centerfire.   Also the hammer itself is what hits the primer, as opposed to the Rugers Transfer bar mechanism.  

I spoke with Hamilton bowen about 3 years ago about converting a Rimfire ruger to Centerfire, and he said he had modified the frame so the the firing pin hit in the correct location but it was difficult enough that he said he'd never do another one...  Just one opinion.

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.17 HRM / .17 Mach 2 convertible
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2004, 05:47:42 PM »
:cb2: I'm sorry--I still haven't figured out the attraction for the new .17s yet. Sure, it zips along faster, but the smaller bullet doesn't seem to be able to kill small game any better than a .22 LR. Its effectiveness on coyotes doesn't appear to be any better either from what I've been hearing here on the forums. I guess I'm glad its out there, because it means more gun sales for the industry, and that helps us all out, but for me, I'd rather spend $10 and have my gun go bang 500 times rather than 50. Heck, for $10 I could get a 50 round box of .357s and really have a great time!

But like my Pappy said, "Opinions are like rear ends. Everybody has one, but some sure are a lot finer than others!"
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.17 HRM / .17 Mach 2 convertible
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2004, 10:08:40 PM »
I would buy a convertable 17M2/17HMR in a minute.  Then I would send it off to Ken Kelly at Mag-na-port and have him make a stalker out of it.  He did this for me with a .32 Single Six.  Mighty fine gun.  A .17M2 would be the perfect starling (grackel) eliminator!  We have a never ending supply of targets around here.  They are like mini-crows, noisy and they chase the other birds from the bird feeder.  Probably not fair hunting over bait but it evens the odds!  44 Man
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2004, 09:21:46 AM »
Fellas:  I think that if you look closely at recent (very) developments, those conversions are available.  I know there is a 17/22lr or the MachII or whatever it is, the 22lr necked to 17 cal for the ruger 22 auto or the 22/45 auto and I don't doubt many, many more are to follow.

I do believe there are now 17 cal barrels for the 10/22 and the 10/22 magnum.  I guess you could say the future is now??  Mikey.