...Guess they talk too much..

[ironglow]

  I was concerned with that..  Report on Newsmax this morning, says Zelensky tells his senior military to clam up.

  It seems they are too open with plans and tactics, when speaking with the media.  Ret Gen Blain Holt, Newsmax consultant says the concern is that the Ukrainians are utilizing some unique tactics, not seen before.
    ...And  Zelensky doesn't want his military to tip their hand, nor inform the Russians just how they accomplished
     certain operations. 

[Dee]

Saw this morning the Russians are shelling Ukrainian positions from the nuclear power plant knowing the Ukrainians won't shoot back.

This whole thing is two very corrupt countries fighting, with one being a great deal larger than the other.

[ironglow]

  I guess I could be wrong, but from what I understand, the corrupt regime the Biden threatened to withhold billions from, was a previous regime of perhaps 10 years ago.

   ..But then again, who are we Americans, to complain about "corrupt regimes", these days ?     

[Bob Riebe]

War can change people, especially when deaths are in the thousands in short order, but I wonder if Zelenskyy has really changed or if trauma from war is just a temporary thing that will wear off?

[ironglow]

  According to a Newsmax report this morning, the Russians atre occupying the nuclear generation plant.  There are omly military in the facility..who know nothing about running such an operation.

  They have mined the premises, which if exploded, could be destabilizing for the complex.

   ...And the Russians are shelling the Ukraine forces and people from the facility.

   https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-fires-artillery-from-nuclear-plant-ukraine-cant-shoot-back-2022-8

  Sounds much like a trick their Muslim "brothers" often use, firing from a place that cannot in good conscience, be targeted by defensive forces.

[billy_56081]

  According to a Newsmax report this morning, the Russians atre occupying the nuclear generation plant.  There are omly military in the facility..who know nothing about running such an operation.

  They have mined the premises, which if exploded, could be destabilizing for the complex.

   ...And the Russians are shelling the Ukraine forces and people from the facility.

   https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-fires-artillery-from-nuclear-plant-ukraine-cant-shoot-back-2022-8

  Sounds much like a trick their Muslim "brothers" often use, firing from a place that cannot in good conscience, be targeted by defensive forces.

Sounds like a good strategy. Only an idiot engages in a fair fight.

[ironglow]

  According to a Newsmax report this morning, the Russians atre occupying the nuclear generation plant.  There are omly military in the facility..who know nothing about running such an operation.

  They have mined the premises, which if exploded, could be destabilizing for the complex.

   ...And the Russians are shelling the Ukraine forces and people from the facility.

   https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-fires-artillery-from-nuclear-plant-ukraine-cant-shoot-back-2022-8

  Sounds much like a trick their Muslim "brothers" often use, firing from a place that cannot in good conscience, be targeted by defensive forces.

Sounds like a good strategy. Only an idiot engages in a fair fight.

   Were you the commander on the scene, would yoou do the same thing?

[DDZ]

It was the Ukrainian forces shelling the nuke plant off and starting weeks ago to cause a monumental disaster to bring the West fully in to the war to prevent a huge radiation poisoning of Europe.  That's the other version of the story. I can't see any advantage to the Russians for blowing the plant.

Besides it appears the Chinese have purchased 17 million hectares of Ukr farm la񤠡nd don't want it contaminated, and told them to knock it off.
.

From the get go Zelenski has done his best to bring the west into the war since it started.  I think he would do anything to accomplish that goal.

[billy_56081]

  According to a Newsmax report this morning, the Russians atre occupying the nuclear generation plant.  There are omly military in the facility..who know nothing about running such an operation.

  They have mined the premises, which if exploded, could be destabilizing for the complex.

   ...And the Russians are shelling the Ukraine forces and people from the facility.

   https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-fires-artillery-from-nuclear-plant-ukraine-cant-shoot-back-2022-8

  Sounds much like a trick their Muslim "brothers" often use, firing from a place that cannot in good conscience, be targeted by defensive forces.

Sounds like a good strategy. Only an idiot engages in a fair fight.

   Were you the commander on the scene, would yoou do the same thing?

Absolutely!  Firing from a position where the enemy won't fire back at is golden.

For one to think this isn't the perfect firing position,  one would have to be daft.

[Graybeard]

For a fellow sitting thousands of miles away you sure do know a lot of detail of what's going on over there on the ground TM. With so many opposing stories coming out from over there it is amazing how you know all the small details of everything happening.

It's also amazing how in love you are with Putin and Russia and how you hate Ukraine and Zenlensky.

Me I don't care one way or the other. They can fight to a draw until the last man in both countries and I'd not care less.

Personally, I don't believe anything being reported by either side. Hell I'm not even convinced they are at war.