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    Biden suggests White House could act without Congress as part of gun control plan  Published January 09, 2013
FoxNews.com      Vice President Biden said Wednesday that the White House could use "executive orders" to deal with gun control, as he kicked off a round of meetings aimed at finding ways to curb gun violence.
The vice president met Wednesday with gun-safety and victims groups, saying he is "determined" to take "urgent action" to address gun violence.
"This is not an exercise in photo opportunities or just getting to ask you all what your opinions are. We are vitally interested in what you have to say," Biden said.
The White House has sought to avoid prejudging what Biden's recommendations would be. But the vice president hinted Wednesday that executive action -- action by the president in which Congress would not have a say -- would indeed be involved.
 
"There are executive orders, executive action that can be taken," Biden said, adding "we haven't decided what that is yet."
He also said separate legislative action would be "required."
Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, after the meeting affirmed that administration officials "talked about ... their willingness to use executive action where that's appropriate."
 
Among the gun-advocacy groups attending the meeting Wednesday were Arizona for Gun Safety, the Brady Campaign, the Campaign to Keep Guns off Campus and Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
The vice president will hear from the other side of the gun-control debate Thursday, when the nation's leading gun lobby meets face to face with his task force in what could be a testy session. The National Rifle Association confirmed to Fox News that the group accepted an invitation to meet with the task force, which is running up against an end-of-the-month deadline to produce a set of proposals.
 
The administration says mental health and the entertainment industry will likely be examined as part of that process. Biden has also scheduled a meeting with representatives from the entertainment and video game industries. But much of the discussion, and proposals from Democratic members of Congress, continue to center around gun control. The meeting Wednesday with gun safety groups will likely focus on those kinds of proposals.
The NRA has been at the helm of fighting those proposals ever since the group broke its post-Connecticut silence and called for a national school security plan to install armed officers at every school in the country.
 
The White House and the NRA have found little common ground as the two groups craft separate responses to the tragedy.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney reiterated Tuesday that President Obama is "skeptical that putting more guns in schools would solve this problem."
It's unclear how the meeting Thursday will be structured. The NRA told Fox News that they are sending a representative to hear what the White House has to say. Carney, though, said the task force is "designed to get input" from others.
 
"Then the vice president's group will assess different actions," Carney said.
The Washington Post reported over the weekend that President Obama was considering measures beyond reinstating a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. According to the paper, the task force is considering measures like universal background checks for gun buyers, a national gun database, strengthening mental-health checks and tougher penalties for people carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors.
 
Asked Monday about the report, Carney reiterated that Obama wants to "close the many loopholes in our background check system" and "supports congressional actions right away."
Accelerated efforts to draft new gun control measures have alarmed gun rights groups, including the NRA, at the national and local levels. A separate last-minute effort to craft a restrictive semi-automatic weapon ban in Illinois was put on hold amid a tight deadline and intense opposition. On Capitol Hill, California Sen. Dianne Feinstein is again pushing a renewal of the federal assault-weapons ban.
 
But Congress is also slammed with a pressing set of deadlines regarding a host of fiscal issues -- the debt ceiling, automatic spending cuts and the federal budget itself.
Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell, the top Republican in the Senate, said the next round of fiscal deadlines will occupy the attention of Congress and push off the consideration of gun legislation for at least three months.
"There will be plenty of time to take a look at their recommendations once they come forward," McConnell said of Biden's upcoming proposals during an interview Sunday on ABC's "This Week."
 
Obama aides say the president still plans to act quickly on Biden's proposals.
"I believe most Americans would disagree with the idea that in the wake of what happened in Newtown, Conn., that we should put off any action on the issue of gun violence," Carney said Monday in response to McConnell's comments.
Biden's recommendations are likely to include proposals for legislation, as well as executive action Obama can sign into law without lawmakers' approval.
The president already has called on Congress to reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, close loopholes that allow gun buyers to skirt background checks and restrict high-capacity magazines.
 
Pro-gun lawmakers on Capitol Hill have said any comprehensive effort to respond to the Newtown shooting must include more than just tighter gun control.
In addition to Biden's meetings this week, Education Secretary Arne Duncan will meet with parent and teacher groups, while Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius will meet with mental health and disability advocates.
The White House said other meetings are also scheduled with community organizations, business owners and religious leaders.
The Associated Press contributed to this report

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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 12:52:14 PM »
It says that hussein wants to close loopholes in the background check system.
The biggest loophole in the number of people under psychiatric care that are not put into the system.
a bunch of these shooters have been known as potential troublemakers long before they do the deal.

but I'm sure that liberals will gladly sacrifice a room full of children rather than put the blame on the medical community where it lies.
we know that they care more for the rights of criminals than victims.
let's ask putin how he handled gun owners when he headed the KGB. liberals would love putin.
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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 12:58:01 PM »
Go figure , like eveything else this meeting was all for show. This is a big one for Hussein and he has
a lot of arrogance riding on it. Buy going around Congress on this I guess it will finally show them
just how worthless they have become.  And it will test the very metal of what America has ever been.
Or define what we have become. 

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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 01:17:27 PM »
Go figure , like eveything else this meeting was all for show. This is a big one for Hussein and he has
a lot of arrogance riding on it. Buy going around Congress on this I guess it will finally show them
just how worthless they have become.  And it will test the very metal of what America has ever been.
Or define what we have become.
Well put, but sometimes I wonder if they are capable of learning from this.
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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 01:38:36 PM »
No Bugeye they wouldn't love Putin, he is very direct in how he runs things and he would not put up with any of their whinny BS or double talk like we do here in this country.

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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 07:39:39 AM »
No Bugeye they wouldn't love Putin, he is very direct in how he runs things and he would not put up with any of their whinny BS or double talk like we do here in this country.

I'll Second that. They would be in one hell of a shock if they get his boot up their collective arses.
 
 As far as all those meeting planned by the WH. All a waste of time. The NRA might as well stay home. Their input is not invited nor considered. Executive Orders will fly of Obama's Desk. Mitch is peeing against the wind if he thinks other more pressing problem will slow down the Gun issues.
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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 08:04:25 AM »
I'm not sure if anyone noticed because the (fair and balanced) media apparently didn't find it newsworthy on new years eve before the fiscal cliff vote in the house, the house repealed obamas executive order giving federal workers (including themselves) a raise. Wonder why the media didn't cover that? Hopefully they have the cajones to repeal any gun control orders that the boy pres tries to pass.

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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2013, 08:19:14 AM »
TM 7
Being a Canadian citizen via naturalization I have no clue what if any abrogation of Gun Rights ever occurred. We have no equivalent of your Second.
 
I live in Canada since 1971. There has been Gun Registration, Individual Firearm Permits in several categories and certain types have been prohibited.
 
It started under Chretien when we had that mass shooting in Quebec way back.
 
I do know that a number of people sold/turned in firarms they didn't want to keep or didn't bother to apply for the permits.
There is no question in my mind that a substantial number of firearms were never registered by people having a firearm license and some that don't have them at all. 
 
Very recently we discontinued the Long Arms registration.
 
It wouldn't surprise me once the present Admin gets done with their intend that you may have more restrictions than we have.
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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 08:21:24 AM »
I'm not sure if anyone noticed because the (fair and balanced) media apparently didn't find it newsworthy on new years eve before the fiscal cliff vote in the house, the house repealed obamas executive order giving federal workers (including themselves) a raise. Wonder why the media didn't cover that? Hopefully they have the cajones to repeal any gun control orders that the boy pres tries to pass.

I didn't know that was possible, that may save your bacon with all that Gun control baloney !
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 08:33:34 AM »
Here's an article about it-
 
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/which-obama-executive-order-did-the-house-overwhelmingly-overturn-on-tuesday/
 
Funny how the media only covers the story when congress doesn't do their job...... 
 
(I know it's the blaze but it's the only place I could find it, I actually saw the vote on cspan as it was happening) 

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 05:12:40 PM »
   
 
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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 01:10:16 AM »
No Bugeye they wouldn't love Putin, he is very direct in how he runs things and he would not put up with any of their whinny BS or double talk like we do here in this country.

I'll Second that. They would be in one hell of a shock if they get his boot up their collective arses.
 
 As far as all those meeting planned by the WH. All a waste of time. The NRA might as well stay home. Their input is not invited nor considered. Executive Orders will fly of Obama's Desk. Mitch is peeing against the wind if he thinks other more pressing problem will slow down the Gun issues.
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I'd say an executive order to nullify or adapt a Constitutionally ordained right would be crossing over a line in the sand; and would have to be combined with some big false flag or disaster of some kind or another_ _some kind of diversion.  That's what Iran is for... ;)
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IMO, RTBA folks need to start up talk and organization of 'militias' again which is intimately involved with the 2nd Amend in the first place. And Boy, does The Duopoly just hate everything about militias..... ;)
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How did they pull off abrogation of gun rights in Canada..??
 
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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 01:23:04 AM »
People are forgetting a lot of the things that Obama said at the first of his previous take over.
Like when he outwardly said the Constitution was a flawed document .
He tells us in certain ways exactly what he is thinking and intends to do.Evil does that it will lie but it 
also will tell you the stark truth and ultimately it is your own free will that hangs you. So we can't
blame him anymore than childishly saying the devil made me do it !

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need to prevent what we are seeing today.How you use or squander your blessings is up to you !
Just don't think your going to continue to receive them if you don't use them wisely . 

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Re: Biden says, hussein might ignore congress AGAIN on gun control.
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 02:01:02 AM »
People are forgetting a lot of the things that Obama said at the first of his previous take over.
Like when he outwardly said the Constitution was a flawed document .
He tells us in certain ways exactly what he is thinking and intends to do.Evil does that it will lie but it 
also will tell you the stark truth and ultimately it is your own free will that hangs you. So we can't
blame him anymore than childishly saying the devil made me do it !

The founding fathers gave us the Constitution and a nation under God with all the tools we would ever
need to prevent what we are seeing today.How you use or squander your blessings is up to you !
Just don't think your going to continue to receive them if you don't use them wisely .
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very good post.  I hope there's enough patriots left to straighten out this mess.
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