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Offline AtlLaw

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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2011, 11:58:06 AM »
Tim, you got to understand one thing!  I'm under a lot of pressure being a hard working gub'ment employee and all!  So naturally I need a little ... um, ah, er... sumpin to help me relax when I get home!   ::)
 
But I'm sure that didn't have anything to do with it...  :P 
 
Ya know, it seems like every time I turn around they opening up some new micro brewery...  And I do got to admit that I feel the need, for the betterment of the forum don't cha know, to insure we ain't missin out on a source of the "perfect" shim material!   ;D   Tryin to stay informed for you guys is gonna turn me into one a them al-key-haul-iks.   :-\
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2011, 12:05:16 PM »
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2011, 12:05:15 AM »
Richard,
 
You ain't alone on the "left handed" scope installation.  My friend did it to a 12 ga slug gun a few years ago and it took both of us and many boxes of sabots before we figured out why his dang scope would adjust correctly!  :-[    And it was a bolt gun so we couldn't blame it on faulty shim stock. ::)
 
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2011, 04:15:21 AM »
Quote from: AtlLaw on October 27, 2011, 09:18:06 AM

After talking to y'all, Leupold customer service and PMing the seller, I finally took the scope off the 500.  Now you must understand, I have probably mounted in the hundreds of scopes.  But in this case I mounted the Leupold 90 degrees off from top dead center!   ::)  No wonder I couldn't dial it in! 
 
Quote from: bikerbeans on October 28, 2011, 12:05:15 AM
 
 You ain't alone on the "left handed" scope installation.  My friend did it to a 12 ga slug gun a few years ago and it took both of us and many boxes of sabots before we figured out why his dang scope would adjust correctly!  :-[    And it was a bolt gun so we couldn't blame it on faulty shim stock. ::)
 
 BB
 
  ??? :-[ Please enlighten me, I have no clue.  How can you mount a scope "90 degrees off from top dead center!"?
 That would make the scope mounted on the left or right side of the barrel. ???
 
 And what the heck is a "left handed" scope installation?  Thanks for "learnin" a city boy turned country boy.  I suddenly feel like Eddie Albert on "Green Acres" without the money. ;) :D
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2011, 04:22:29 AM »
Pertains to the scope adj. knobs, with the proper installation the windage knob is to the right, elev. to the top.
If you rotate it in the rings you can get the elev. on the left with the windage on the top.
Now, this 'may' work; I once rotated a scope to have a X rather than crosshairs to be able to put my target right in the 'V' of the top of the X and not obscure any of it. It worked tolerably well, but was  a trial to dial in! I did prove the theory of the X, anyway, and modified a scope to that reticule.
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2011, 04:29:11 AM »
Quote from: OldSchoolRanger on October 28, 2011, 04:15:21 AM
  ??? :-[ How can you mount a scope "90 degrees off from top dead center!"?  That would make the scope mounted on the left or right side of the barrel. ???

That would be true if it were the top dead center of the rifle barrel instead of the scope!
 
Sheeesh!    ::)   Sure can tell you were a snake eater...  ;D
 
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And what the heck is a "left handed" scope installation?

I'll let BB learn ya on that!   :D
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2011, 04:39:22 AM »
Quote from: gcrank1 on October 28, 2011, 04:22:29 AM
Pertains to the scope adj. knobs, with the proper installation the windage knob is to the right, elev. to the top.
If you rotate it in the rings you can get the elev. on the left with the windage on the top.
Now, this 'may' work; I once rotated a scope to have a X rather than crosshairs to be able to put my target right in the 'V' of the top of the X and not obscure any of it. It worked tolerably well, but was  a trial to dial in! I did prove the theory of the X, anyway, and modified a scope to that reticule.
Duuh! I knew that. :P :-[ I guess it was a senior moment.  :D   Actually, I always thought AtlLaw was competent, and assumed that he wouldn't make a mistake like that, but I guess it goes to prove the old saying about when you assume something is correct. :-\ I guess I better go make a few shims. 8)

Thanks gcrank1.

Now if I can figure out what a "left handed" scope installation is, before BB chimes in. ;)
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2011, 04:51:35 AM »
Quote from: OldSchoolRanger on October 28, 2011, 04:39:22 AM
I always thought AtlLaw was a competent, and assumed that he wouldn't make a mistake like that, but I guess it goes to prove the old saying about when you assume something is correct. :-\

Okay, you found me out...  :-[  I know it's hard to believe, but I do, on rare occasions, make an error.  'course, I have been known to make up a mistake or feign ignorance just to make lesser minds feel better.   8)
 
Uh Oh!  Sorry about that!  The conceit is the lawyer in me coming out!    ;D
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2011, 05:07:06 AM »
OSR, I was sure you knew it.....you were just asking the obvious question for the new guys that might be a tad confused  ;) .
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2011, 07:15:45 AM »
gcrank1 - Thanks for cma.  But to be honest, I couldn't for the life of me comprehend, how someone not making shims would mount a scope with the windage knob on the left. :D

BTW - BB don't bother chiming in, "I's gots its figured out". Left handed scope installation indeed.
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2011, 01:38:36 PM »
By any chance had you just watched one of the Best Defense - Survivor programs where they show you how to shoot under cars while lying on your side.............
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2011, 04:01:43 PM »
Richard, I got's about a half dozen guns already sighted in and ammo on hand.  Just breeze by on your way to Souf Gawga and pick one out.....I put my scopes on right side up so you may have to adjust your vision..... ;D
 
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2011, 01:23:53 AM »
Hey Guys,
 On this subject, some folks that were not having senior moments have mounted their scopes in the manner in which Richard so eloquently describes. all of them I have seen were mounted on the Winchester 94 Pre angle eject models. This allowed the empty case to be ejected by a scope . They were totally backwards in their adjustment , thus requiring thought concentration in their adjustment process. They worked well after the initial sight in but the side mount was offset to the left, thus the rifle had to be sighted in about 1 or 2 inches to the left to keep a straight sighting plane.
 Seeing as how a scope does not have a clue what is up or down, right or left and it should be recoil proof in any direction. The scope should adjust and hold adjustment regardless of the direction of the scope caps as to a 90 dergee rotation of the scope.
 Hmmmmmmm while typing this I had another idea..... I am going to mount one of my bench rest   scopes in this manner and try it out.......
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2011, 02:17:43 PM »
I think "left handed" is nice language for a$$backwards. ;)
 
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Re: 500 S&W woes
« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2011, 02:21:38 PM »
I've had my 500 Handi for a few years now and shoot it a lot, always at listed max. It's the best $300 I've ever spent in firearm fun. I had my local smith replace the cheap plastic sights with some good iron sights from a Remington 700. I feel that's all I'll ever need. All I've ever shot in it is hard cast gas check bullets and my bore really does not ever need cleaning. It stays shiney clean. www.mattsbullets has the best choice of 500 bullets in the country.
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