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Offline Capt. Augustus

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Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« on: October 13, 2011, 04:18:37 AM »
I have a new BC made since the Remington change, that I have been attempting to shoot BP loads.  I had a BC around 12 years ago, that I don't remember any problems with.  The new one quickly fouls out.  I figured that it was the lube, so I mixed up some beeswax, Crisco and canola oil.  It didn't help.  I am using the Lee .459 HB bullet in 1 in 40 mix.  Any help will be appreiated.
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 04:41:57 AM »
Chances are it's still your lube, with the readily available quality prooven lubes there's little reason to waste time and effort on making lube.
More load details will be helpful, ie powder charge, what brand and how much, primer, and wad..
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 07:49:29 AM »
Quote from: Ranch13 on October 13, 2011, 04:41:57 AM
with the readily available quality prooven lubes there's little reason to waste time and effort on making lube.

I can't believe you said that!   :o  Making your own lube is part of the BP tradition don't you know!   ???  'sides, I got pounds of mutton tallow and beeswax laying around that I can't find any other use for...  :-\
 
A-hem,  ;)  Gus, I am not at all knowledgeable in the BP Cartridge rifle area, but the mix for the best BP lube they is can be found in the C&B Revolver forum.  And I'm sure the folk over in the BP Cartridge Rifle forum would have plenty of ideas on just about anything in that arena!   ;D
 
The only thing I can say with any authority is that rechambering your BC to 45-120 is the cure for all ailments!   :P
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 11:52:06 AM »
I guess what I am wondering about is the barrel.  I looked at a Handirifle in .45/70 soon after I got the BC, and it had what appeared to be deeper rifling.


On my older BC and Handi, it seemed like I could get more shots before cleaning.


But that's old memory!
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 02:17:04 PM »
Try a 'priming' charge of 3 or 4F, maybe 5gr. and top the rest up with 2F.
Before you load the cartridge, rub some 'Udder Cream' on the bullets nose.
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 03:58:43 PM »
I've shot some black, and a lot of Pyrodex, using a mag primer and a felt wad.  It seems odd to use the wad under a hollow base bullet, but I found it improved accuracy, and minimized fouling.  I've got about 100 still loaded, and when those are gone I'll go only smokeless.  I've had to break down the frame twice already to clean fouling there, and I'm just too dang lazy.
 
(The bullet side of the wad was lubed with bore butter.)
 
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 04:09:10 PM »
I think this BC will be smokeless soon.  I'll probably pull the loads.  I did not use a wad due to the HB.  I am using Trail Boss with the 340  gr bullet in my Marlin, and they are looking good.
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 04:09:15 PM »
Ben, try a full case of Trail Boss.
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 04:16:01 PM »
What's your powder charge? Many people make the mistake of trying to load to light. That's when the fouling gets the worst. Fill that case up watch things improove.
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Re: Shooting BP in a new Buffalo Classic
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 05:06:54 PM »
Well, I found out how bad my memory has become.  I found 3 loaded cartridges from the old days. I  pulled the bullets and found they were loaded with 777.  Maybe that`s why they worked back then. Back to the reloading press.
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