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250 Savage Improved
« on: July 16, 2011, 02:04:16 PM »
Is the 250 Savage AI suitable for a G-2 Contender frame? 


I have a 25-20 carbine barrel that I want rechambered to something else.  I got the barrel in a trade.


My goal is to use standard 250 Savage data.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 03:33:31 PM »
I don't know the answer to your question, but I sent you a PM.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 07:23:15 PM »
Received you PM.  I have a set of Hornady dies in 25 Remington.  I have plans to convert the barrel to some kind of larger cartridge.  If OTT starts rechambering then Mike Siros will get the nod to make it into a rimmed 25 Remington.  I already have 25-35 brass to complete the project.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2011, 07:58:34 PM »
Back in the 80's I had a standard .250Sav in a 99A Savage chambered for a 250Ackley Improved (40 degree shoulder). The .250 was originally pressure limited to 45,000CUP and the AI version did not claim to raise pressure according to Ackley literature (although I suspect the pressure was a few thousand PSI higher given the much higher velocity claims).  Anyway, I had less problem with case "stretch" than the "factory" version because of the sharp shoulder design and much better velocity over the "screens".  However, the biggest problem I had was functioning in the 99's action where the sharp shoulder case did not always feed as "slick" as the original, but I was impressed with its accuracy! You will not have a "feeding" problem in a Contender, nor a case stretching problem due to action design.  (I currently have a .250Sav barrel mounted on my wife"s Encore and it will easily perform as well as a .257 Roberts.)  Since the Contender will take the pressure of a .223 (about 50,000CUP) and a host of "wildcat" pistol cartridges pushing in that same "neighborhood", the .250AI should not present any problems. I would ask the good people of Smith & Wesson, who now own T.C., the pressure limitations of their Contender actions to make sure. BTW, if you use the standard .250 factory in the .250AI chamber, you will lose about 50 to 100fps over a standard chamber due to chamber dimensions and "fire forming" of the cases.  Good luck in your quest. The .250AI is an excellent cartridge that is one of Ackley's more efficient designs according to many authorities on the subject.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 11:23:55 AM »
I think Ackley's best stuff were the 250,257 Roberts,30-30,35 Whelan and any of the stuff he did on the 30-40 Krag cartridges.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 05:51:40 AM »
     According to Mr Ackley himself, as stated in one of his books, his "most improved" round was the 250Sav AI. 8)
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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 05:37:41 AM »
I would not put the 250AI on a Contender frame. Too much chance of runnin into trouble.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 01:59:43 AM »
I would not put the 250AI on a Contender frame. Too much chance of runnin into trouble.

My opinion is the same. Case head diameter is too large and pressures will be directly proportional to the larger head size. Your margine of error is reduced.

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Re: 250 Savage Improved
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 05:02:53 PM »
I have read in several places that you can chamber the contender in .250 AI. You can not load it over the max listed loads for the standard loads for the regular round. The articles stated that you should expect accelerated frame ware from shooting cartrages that powerfull in a contender.
 
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