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7400 and shooting groups!
« on: May 02, 2011, 08:36:14 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that shooting 5 shot group are pointless- impossible!    :o   Evertime I've shot groups the first three shots will be 1-1.25". Even with letting the barrel cool down the last two will open the group too about 3" !  I've removed all contact points which would cause this in the forearm.   The only conclusion left is the heat sink into the action parts under the forearm?  I guess thats just something you got to live with on these Remingtons ::)
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2011, 04:04:41 AM »
My 30-06 will group the first two touching or almost touching and the third shot will almost always be 1.5-2" out. I agree probably heat.
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2011, 07:34:53 AM »
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Same here first two almost touching one about 1" away from those two then 4-5 will be 2-3" way from that group!  Always left and high!  Before I removed the contact points all shots laddered high left!  I was getting about a 8" group at 100 yards so I've cut it down to 3" four 5 shot group!  Now considering where and how I hunt this is not a big deal as I don't usually get more then one or two shots at deer! I always like to make the first one the kill shot anyway!  I bought this gun for the reduction on felt recoil anyway- My Savage  will beat the snot out of you after 10 rounds where I can shoot this Rem 7400 all day!  ;D
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2011, 09:10:20 AM »
My third shot is high and right. Possibly opposite of yours due to me being a lefty? At least from the bench nine shots is all my shoulder can take. Standing and shooting freehand has much less recoil feel.
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2011, 10:03:51 AM »
Fellows five shot groups are the standard for National Benchrest Shooters Association targets.   Five shots allowed in a five minute time limit to give the shooter more time to avoid barrel overheating.

Three shot groups is all thats needed for proving the accuracy of a hunting rifle.   When was the last time you fired five consecutive rounds at game, with a 7400 in 30-06?

The gasport mechanism and the forend design on the 7400 or 740 Remington, don't allow for tight five shot groups, this is a hunting rifle made for guick follow-up shots not pinpoint accuracy.

One consulation, the short lived Winchester 100 shoots worse groups, much worse from my experience.

Don't own a semi-auto high powered hunting rifle and never will since I expect 3 shot groups under 1 inch from my hunting rifles and the majority of them  group in the 1/2 inch range for 3 shots at 100 yards.    My .338 Winchester averages in the .3 to .4 inch range.  My .458 Winchester shoots 3/4 inch groups.

Another point before shooting for a group, fire a fouling shot before firing the group to avoid a first shot clean bore flyer.  That's what the benchrest shooters do before starting a group, six shots fired the first one into the backstop and not on the target.  The next five fired over the rest of the five minute shooting period allowed.

Anyway 3 shots in 1 to 1 1/4 inch is great accuracy from a 7400 Remington.   Five shot groups a waste of time and ammo.
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2011, 11:22:53 AM »
Mine is the best shooting rifle I have ever had for the price, free! ;D  Inherited.
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2011, 09:37:51 AM »
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 For the most part I agree-been a bolt gun guy for the majority of my life ! I didn't expect bolt gun accuracy from this gun- hoping-but not expected!  I can live with a 1-1.25" group for the first three rounds. More then accurate for my hunting needs! Usually just takes one well placed shot especially with the '06 to down anything I hunt! ;D  The big advantage with this Rem 7400 it doesn't beat the crap out of me.    ;)  I love to shoot and this allows my old bones to shoot more! :)
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Re: 7400 and shooting groups!
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 11:31:04 PM »
I agree about the 'fun to shoot and doesn't beat the crap out of me!'.  I've got an 03-A3 that's a tight shooting rifle, but it's a monster to shoot.  This 7400 of mine is just plain fun and I don't need a limbsaver pad on it when I go to the range.   :)