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Offline Delkal

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Contender Wildcat Idea.
« on: February 07, 2011, 12:23:04 PM »
I currently have a 10 inch Octagon .22 Hornet barrel for my Contender.  I was thinking about getting it rechambered to a .22 K-hornet for a bump in velocity.  Looking at the Chamber dimension it occurred to me that the K hornet still has a very long neck and you could probably get an extra grain or two of powder if the neck was shorter.  Has anyone seen a round similar to this.  A standard K hornet reamer could be used if the neck was modified and it was run in deeper.  Standard K-hornet dies could also be used for neck sizing.

Any comments on if this will work or who to do the rechambering.

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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 08:13:28 PM »
I've thought about doing the same with a 17 Ackley Hornet. More neck than apparently necessary.
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 08:25:54 PM »
There's already a short necked version by CS Landis, neck is .220".

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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 01:56:33 AM »
I guess my idea was just 60 years too late!   I was thinking an even shorter neck  but that is very close.   Do you think anyone would have a reamer for it or would it  be easier (cheaper)  to modify a K-Hornet reamer.
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 05:09:23 AM »
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 07:03:23 AM »
Tim,  I sent them an Email and I am waiting for a reply.  They claim to have over 22,000 chamber spec prints.  I bet they have something extremely close already.  Its hard to think up a wildcat thats never been done (or needed).

I will load it with flat point bullets and call it the .22 Pointless!
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 07:36:34 AM »
There had been "a few" different improved 22 Hornets over the years, all with slightly different specs and different names, but all still in .224 caliber.   One of them might be closer specs to what you want to do, although I think its just splitting hairs and trying to fix wheels that aren't broken.   Too many years for me to remember their names right now, but with research some might come to light for you.     Have fun.
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 03:03:09 PM »
" Standard K-hornet dies could also be used for neck sizing"

Their's nothing standard about the K-Hornet dies.  Different Die Manufacturers have different shoulder angles.
Same thing with the reamer manufacturers "Standard K-Hornet Reamer".
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 03:24:01 PM »
I usually get Hornady or RCBS dies.  Does anyone know their specs?    Are they significantly different?
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 03:25:59 PM »
I think I'd just use the Lee Collet neck die, it works wonderful on my Hornet.  ;)

Tim
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 09:56:27 PM »
Quote from: Delkal on February 08, 2011, 03:24:01 PM
I usually get Hornady or RCBS dies.  Does anyone know their specs?    Are they significantly different?

I don't know about the Hornady dies but I did email RCBS and Redding and some of the reamer manufacturers. Redding dies are made to the original 35 degree shoulder angle and RCBS dies have a 40 degree shoulder angle.
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 01:37:58 AM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on February 08, 2011, 03:25:59 PM
I think I'd just use the Lee Collet neck die, it works wonderful on my Hornet.  ;)

Tim

+1   ;)
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Lee collet die
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 01:57:23 AM »
the standard Lee Collet die for 22 Hornet will not work on any K Hornet version. It would squeeze much of the neck back down to standard hornet neck length and diameter.

The standard Lee Collet die for the 22 Hornet can be modified to work on K hornet cases. It involves mounting the inner collet with it's 4 'petals' locked onto the end of a steel mandrel, then drilling out part of the inner surface to allow more clearance for the K hornet's longer full body diameter.
Been there, done that, works great for the K Hornets I had. Love Collet dies : )
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 07:06:30 AM »
I think Lee still offers custom Collet dies if you don't have the resources like Alan does to modify.   They used to be $50 with a bit of a wait, and I had many made over the years early on for most of my wildcats.   They pretty much didn't go completely out of use until I started using hand dies on my arbor press many years ago, both commercial and custom until a couple of machinist friends started making them for me to my specs.
FWIW   
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 02:08:20 PM »
Thanks for the tips on the different dies!   Looks like I will be playing with the Lee Collet soon.
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Re: Contender Wildcat Idea.
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 02:13:14 PM »
CH4d will make a die set for about $60, all they need is the drawing.

Tim

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