Author Topic: Loading 450 Marlin vs. 45/70 for the Encore (Read 965 times)

Ullr · « **on:** December 23, 2002, 04:11:37 AM »

I haven’t had much luck finding that much loading data for the 450 Marlin. I have a 450 for my Encore with a 15” barrel and a 12” 45/70 on the way. Is the 450 Marlin for the Encore really any different then the 45/70? I understand the concept of the two different cartages, 450 designed so it will not load into a 45/70 trap door or other weaker rifle. I would assume that I should be able to use any 45/70 loading data and be fine. But when talking specifically about the Encore is there any real difference. I didn’t know if the cases were any heavier/stronger for the 450 then the 45/70 or if the Encore barrels were made any different to allow for different loading.

Also where is the best place to get loading data for these two cartages specifically for the Encore? Most of the data I have is either for a rifle or the Contender.

jamie · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2002, 04:52:42 AM »

I can't tell you the differences between the two but I can tell you the Encore is rated for Ruger#1 loads in 45-70. More pop than you really want to shoot.

KN · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2002, 10:12:45 AM »

Hodgden has data for the 450, I'm sure most of the others do too by now. If not just start with the Marlin 45/70 loads and go from there. KN

EdK · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2002, 12:52:03 PM »

Quote from: jamie

I can tell you the Encore is rated for Ruger#1 loads in 45-70

Is this based on information from T/C or is it from a load book published by a reputable component manufacturer?

jamie · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2002, 10:33:43 PM »

Actually from T/C and from GB when I asked for load info. When I was working up a load for 250 grn barnes "X" and IMR 3031 T/C said use as much as I could fit in the case, said I would run out of volume before I hit a max load. With that said, by all means double check with someone else. :grin: