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Offline twohats

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Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« on: November 08, 2010, 01:39:30 PM »
Now that I am hanging up the longbow,TC season is coming in for me.I have been told i cannot put a hammer ext on my stock G2,unless I make some changes.What's ya'lls take on this?Thanks

Danny
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 03:19:05 PM »
They have been known to cause misfires on all style Contenders.  I don't see the need for them.  I have a number of different scope/mount combos and all can be used without extensions.
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 05:09:12 PM »
never had a problem with them on any contender  or encore even the ones with trigger jobs. Most problems are from something else like dirty firing pin or the butt stock bolt to long. I have gone to taller scope rings and removed most of mine.
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 01:34:08 AM »
I am using the Deadnutz grame reaper one piece scope mounts and I don't have much clearance at all.My old G1 had and ext. and never had a problem.I had been told by others that the problem existed with the G2's.I will just have to wear gloves with the fingers cut out.LOL..Thanks for the inputs guys..
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 05:27:30 AM »
I have never had a problem on type 1 type 2 or g2 or encore but I use the alominum ones that are very light If you use the tall rings you may be able to get bu without one.

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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 12:04:16 PM »
Never one on my contenders again.

My first contender 18 years ago had misfires with 22lr. 357max and 35 rem.  Sent it back to TC twice and it still misfired.  Before sending it the third time I called and expressed my displeasure.  They asked if I had a hammer extension and I said yes (I always took it off when sending it in) and they said that was the problem and that it probably had weakened the hammer spring again to send it in and they would change it.  I did and 18 years later that frame has never misfired with the 30 or so barrels it has had on it.  None of my other 4 frames have never misfired without a hammer extension either.  I use medium sccpe rings and there is plenty of room to cock the gun in my opinion.

Call me a believer in no hammer extension, right or wrong it is not worth the chance to me.  Did I mention that the last time it misfired way back when, it was pointed at a nice buck.  If it had not of fired when I reloaded it, it probably would have been thrown out of a treestand.
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 03:03:22 PM »
Bought my first Contender with a 10" 30-30 barrel in 1980 and installed an Uncle Mike's (I think) hammer extention on it before I ever shot it.  I have never had a misfire and that same frame has fired hundreds of 30 Herrett, 44 Mag, 218 Bee, 22 Hornet and 22LR all with the original main spring.

Have since expanded my frames to a total of three and have the same extention on only one other because I have not been able to find the same extention  for the third.  I think there is a lot of evidence to confirm a problem with FTF with the extentions but I have never had a problem. 

Every frame is different and have no experience with the G-2.  If you need it for clearance try one a bunch before placing it in a hunting situation.

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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2010, 04:28:36 AM »
Been using the alum. ones on my contenders for years with no problems. My son has one on his G2 rifle and has had no problem(again alum. only).  Pat
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2010, 01:18:47 PM »
Plenty of people have definitely had problems with a weakened or broken hammer spring. As you can see from some of these posts, some have not. My mind was made up 30 years ago: Why take a chance?
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2010, 02:44:53 AM »
I have had problems with extensions and will not use anymore.  Failure to fire and a broken hammer spur.  Never again.
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2010, 12:21:25 PM »
Some years ago, I purchased ½ dozen of the extensions from the guy you can’t mention on this site…

Aluminum may be the best and these FIT and remain in place when properly tightened.  Being poorly made or designed would allow for movement of them and this could cause the momentum of the hammer to not be consistent or heavy enough—don’t know…

I got them for the Encore and the Contender.  I don’t have an Encore, but I have relatives that do…

I put mine on Contenders and the Encore ones went to the relatives….

They are still on all that they were installed on…

I don’t know how many rounds the Encores shoot—probably not too many—but I do know how many rounds my Contenders shoot—lots and lots…

Never a misfire…

I think part of the problem with misfires and the Contender is the headspace situation.  Some cartridges are more prone to headspace problems than others.  Add a bit of weight to the hammer and it MIGHT help cause misfires—but I won’t say that with any first-hand knowledge…

I have not had any problems and that is all I am concerned with.  They sure serve a purpose with low rings and clearance issues and that is all I use for trajectory reasons…

Good-luck...BCB


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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2010, 01:12:41 PM »
I really appreciate all the great inputs.I have purchased a Carlson Aluminium one and it seems extremely light to me.My local shop sells them and the guys there will only use them.I am gonna give it a shot and hope for the best.I know wiyh out it I can barely get the hammer back and the hammer almost slipped loose when I was trying to let it down earlier this week.I really like the lower mounts as well.I am using the deadnutz one piece right now.Thanks guys and I hope I won't have to replace any parts or misfire on a nice one.Have a great season all.

Danny
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2010, 04:56:27 PM »
I swore them off once upon a time, but have since started to use Carlson's and havn't had any more trouble.  The trouble I had before with misfires turned out to be a weak hammer spring that would not crack rifle primers.  I replaced the hammer spring in both of my G2 frames and "whammo" no more misfires whether there is a hammer extension or not.

BTW adding a heavier hammer spring also helps to "crisp-up" the trigger pull also.
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Re: Hammer extension.to do or not to do?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 07:43:38 AM »
Thanks again.I had a friend check the factory trigger pull and it was 3.75 lbs.I left it at that but I still think it should be lighter but I will save that for another time.I will probably get a complete tune up one day with all the upgrades.

Danny
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