Stubb Barrel?

[embalmer883]

Anybody know who's doing stubbs. Wayne york doesn't list anything (that I found). I bought a SB1 12ga with survivor stocks today for $100. Thought the barrel would be ideal for a stubb.
Gonna Send the SB1 Reciever for a tracker barrel, and maybe a turkey barrel.

[quickdtoo]

Wayne does, he did my 6.5x55 on a Shilen blank, ~$350.

Tim

[embalmer883]

here's the reply from my email to Wayne York

Quote:
Sorry, but we don't stubb barrels anymore.  I would be glad to rebore
another barrel for you.

Thanks for the inquiry,
Wayne

Oregunsmithing, LLC
Wayne York, Gunmaker
43906 Jerico Lane
Pendleton, OR  97801
Phone  541-278-4177
Fax  541-278-4797


Looks like I need to find a heavy 204- 223 barrel in order to make my 7-30 waters

[trotterlg]

Did he say why he stopped doing them?  They are dead easy to do, about 4 or 5 hours of work if you have a contoured barrel to start with, and I bet it took him even less tiem that it takes me.  Larry

[embalmer883]

Larry,

That was the whole email. Do you do em for others or just a hobby for yourself?

[trotterlg]

I am not a Gunsmith.  I mostly do these things for fun and to see what can be done and how it will work out.  I've done a few dozen of them, mostly odd things like a 5mm Rem Mag RF, or a 22 LR shotgun.  A few 32-20's and 30 Carbines.  the 17 Remington Fireball seems to work out well as a rechamber for the .17 HMR Handi's.  .32 H&R Mags are fun to shoot and I did do a 35 Remington from a .357 Handi in some kind of a strange 3 way trade thing.  I even made up a .14 cal barrel in a Handi, but it didn't work out well.  I am surprised that Mr. York quit doing these, he is very well known for his work, he may be just getting old and tired like I am.  There are tons of 7mm Rem Mag takeoff barrels for sale for peanuts, I even have one sitting here, I just haven't found a good use for a 7mm barrel, the Waters could be just the thing.  Tell the truth I never heard of it, just had to look it up.  Larry

[tacklebury]

Only gun I've heard of it in is a Thompson Contender.  I heard it was a nice intermediate deer cartridge for that platform. 

[ham7777]

Winchester chambered it in a fancy 94 for a while I think back in the 80's. It shot very well.Tom Ham7777

[NFG]

The 7-30 Waters is an excellent cartridge...I KNOW someone has done a stub barrel on the NEF...but just can't remember where I read it.  But since the 7-08 is available, the smaller cartridge wouldn't be all that desirable...they should have done the 7-30 first!!!!  The Levergun boys know all about it and it is a very popular rebarrel. 

It shouldn't take too much longer than doing ANY thread/chamber job...maybe an extra hours' fiddling, it depends on how much machine work is done and if the machines are CNC or not, it doesn't take too long to cut and thread the extra 2" of stub and receiver even on a manual lathe...but I'm guessing few want to pay the extra costs and Wayne is swamped probably as it is.  I'm guessing there are other reasons also, like milling the extractor slot which are additional machine setups that take TIME which is money.  I think Tim got a He** of a deal at $350 for his job.

If you really want one...buy a 7-08 or 280 barrel, stub it off, then thread and chamber it...the longer barrel will end up just about the same length as a standard NEF barrel at ~22"...the shorter barrel about 18", or do a Bobbit and chop them down to 16.5"...

I would go with a McGowen barrel rather than a rebore if I  were doing a 7-30 and not starting with a 7mm barrel...you will start with a much higher quality barrel and much cheaper than a rebore and use a 20-12 ga barrel as the receiver.

There are several ways to skin this cat.

Luck

[dpe.ahoy]

I don't have a stubbed 7-30 waters, but Wayne did a re-bore/re-chamber in that caliber for me.  That was my first one in that chambering, have since added a Winchester 94 and TC contender barrel in it.  Any 7mm fan would be happy with one.  I'm lucky enough to have one of Larry's projects, the 22 "shotgun" came to me for my 5 year old son.  It's fun and the look on his face everytime he shoots his shotgun is heartwarming for sure.  I was also part of the 3 way 35 rem thing Larry did for a member here.  Larry is a gun toten' angel in my book.   DP

[gunther66]

Someone clue me in-what is this 22 shotgun? G66

[tacklebury]

Basically, it's just a smoothbore .22 cal firearm, which works well with shot shells.  Back in the day, especially between 1910 and 1940, a lot of people killed birds and other small creatures even in the cities.  Having a smoothbore meant that there was no rifling to mess with the shot column, so they would be pretty good on starlings etc. out to about 15 yards.  Shooting shotshells in a modern rifle, is about a 10 foot possibility.  The smoothbore did limit solids shooting to about 30 yards with decent accuracy for small game like rabbits and squirrels though.  Many kids from my grandpa's era's first job was killing starlings, pigeons etc. for the bounty's they would have on them.  I think my grand dad stated he got 2-5 cents a head for some.  His first gun was the single shot .410 I got and he was able to shoot into the clouds of starlings and make them rain down several at a time, so his was was a bit more efficient.  Very poor families in the depression would also use these little .22's to kill rats and such to eat too.  There was no being finicky when there was nothing else available.  My grandparents were both pretty lucky during the depression, because on one side they owned a farm that was well run and my great-grandpa was a teamster and his horses were constantly in demand.  People would often pay them in chickens, eggs or bullets, since there was so little money.  My other side was involved in less savory affairs, but nontheless, made money as needed.  lol  Anyway, I'm sure some folks here will be able to add more than this. 

[dpe.ahoy]

The one Larry stubbed will hold a fairly good pattern out to about 15-18 ft, after that it has some pretty good sized open places in the shot pattern.  Up to that, it would sure ruin a snakes day.  DP

[embalmer883]

Can anyone on here help me out with a stubb 7-30 waters? I've got the 12ga barrel to stubb and I will pick up Barrel if need be.

[geezer56]

Larry did a stub for me in 7mmTCU.  It is a work of art, and will be used on Bambi seeking expeditions this year.  He truly did an outstanding job!  It was made up from a 12 ga donor for the stub, and a Rem. 700 barrel in 7 Mag.  It finished off about 21 in, and has a pretty light contour for the barrel.  I am rapidly becoming a fan of the caliber.  All I've done so far is fire-forming loads, but it definitely has potential.