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Parkerized barrel care
« on: August 08, 2010, 04:44:40 AM »
I noticed that trotterlg parks a lot of barrels. I have an 870 Express which weeps rust colored oil. My understanding is that a parkerized finsh provides no rust protection but is a way to keep oil from being rubbed off the barrel. What do you oil the exterior with and how often? I have CLP, Eezox, 3 in 1, WD40, etc available.

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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 06:23:38 AM »
The first thing to do is to get the 3 in 1 oil and the WD-40 away from any guns. I have a couple of parkerized barrels and guns and use CLP or a good gun oil on them. I have read that Eezox is good as well....<><....:)
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 08:20:57 AM »
Ed's Red (home brew) has been a most satisfactory mix for me, after years of commercial goods, some good, some so-so.
As a basic, no frills mix, try 1/3 ATF and 2/3 oderless mineral spirits.
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 08:30:59 AM »
+1 on the Eezox recommendation, I've been using it for over 20yrs, it's never let me down as a protectant, and it dries to a non-dust collecting film in about a day when used properly, it's great stuff.  ;)

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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 11:34:09 AM »
3-in-1 and WD-40 work just fine.  Break Free is better.  Remington does not Parkerize the 870 Express it's just a matte blued finish.  Remington doesn't Parkerize any of their hunting guns.
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 03:51:16 PM »
I've used 3 in 1 lots of times on my guns and never had a problem with it. CLP is better though.



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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 04:38:37 PM »
After I parkerize a barrel, I wash it with cold water and then flood it with WD-40.  I wipe all that off and then put a coating of Singer sewing machine oil on it.  I guess it is like 3 N 1 oil.  I've never had a rust problem after that.  Most WW2 guns had at least some parkerizing on them and 1911's were all parkerized.  It is a very hard finish so it stands up better to abuse than blue does I think.  Remington does use a finish that looks simular but it not parkerizing.  My S&W I-bolt POS is parkerized.  Larry
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2010, 05:24:13 PM »
WD-40 (fish oil) will dry out and gum things up if ya let it.  If you want to use it, you need to flush it out and reapply.  DP
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 12:40:33 AM »
WD-40 (fish oil) will dry out and gum things up if ya let it.  If you want to use it, you need to flush it out and reapply.  DP

Wd-40 is mostly silicone (not fish oil) and it's a great solvent.
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 02:56:12 AM »
WD-40, (Water Displacing oil, formula #40) is a great moisture displacing oil.  I keep several cans of it in my vehicles, and on several occasions where I've doused the ignition system, a good snort of it inside the distributor cap, and then wiped out gets me up and running very fast.  If my vehicle has managed to get water in the cylinders, I pull the plugs, and shoot it in the cylinders and turn it over a few revolutions, then use it on the plugs, wipe 'em off, and reinstall, and then restart.  Also use it on exposed electrical connections.  It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick as a penetrating oil, if there's absolutely nothing else available, and it makes a pretty good starting fluid on small engines when they're cold.
I keep a small can in my ditty bag along with a bore snake kit, especially if the gun's been exposed to rain or snow. 
I do NOT use WD-40 as a primary lubricant, nor as a preservative.  In a jam, it works okay for a short spell.
To the question of maintaining a Parkerized finish, I've used motor oil, transmission fluid, Ed's Red, or just about any good brand gun oil. 
As mentioned, Remington 870 Express shotguns are a bead blast/blue finish, not Parked.
In a pinch, a fella COULD use a good linseed oil on a Park'd finish, but it will build up over time. Several of my 03's, A3's, Garands and Carbines have had BLO applied to the metal, and over time, it hardens, but is easily removed with acetone, bringing it back to almost it's original color.  (War II guns that've been Park'd give a 'green' hue after time, but the original color can range from clear, through grey, to a deep black, depending on the metal, and application process)
Parkerized military guns and equipment that have been in storage since 1945, and had a heavy Cosmoline coating look like new when properly cleaned, and most of the long guns that went to Greece and then came back to us, were preserved in a heavy axle grease instead of "Cosmoline", and look great, and is a lot cheaper than the brand-name, Mil-Spec stuff.  Just a turrible mess to clean up.
I use it on my hand tools, shovels, rakes, axes, and the like, in the fall when I put them away.  Keeps the corrosion down on the metal, and preserves the wood.  Helps to warm the pieces up a bit, then splooge it on with a heavy coat, let it set for awhile, then wipe it off with a rag, but be sure and dispose of the rags, or they are likely to self-ignite.  I just go ahead and pitch 'em in the stove and get it over with.  I do NOT use BLO in the guts of any firearm, it makes a REALLY poor lubricant!  Works more like glue!
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2010, 06:29:56 AM »
Wanna read some neat stuff about WD-40?... goto the web and type in "WD-40 History"....WD stands for "water displacing" and 40 was the number of tries.  It was developed by the Rocket Chemical Company in 1953...Convair used it for keeping the Atlas missle skin from rusting and corrosion.  There is even a WD-40 fan club.

Totally neat stuff but I don't think it was designed as a lubricant except short term.

The problem with oxygen is it's so highly reactive and impossible to keep away from other reactive substances...like iron/steel.

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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 11:17:24 AM »
I've used a silicone cloth with enough clp on it to make it oily to touch to maintain rust free assigned military weapons and personal firearms since before the first gulf war.  Don't attract dirt and dust like straight clp and other "normal" firearms lubes do.  A quick wipe down is all I ever do after hunting and after cleaning on a semi-annual basis.  Firearms maintained this way were still rust free after 3 years of storage at a relatives while I was assigned to a unit in Germany (Germany nolonger gun friendly to US Service Members).

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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2010, 07:48:35 AM »
i use hoppes elite on all my firearms and it works great
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2010, 10:57:53 AM »
I use break free and 3-in-1 machine oil.  That is what I use to wipe down all my Parkerized guns as well as the blue ones and even the stainless ones.  Have had no problems.  I do use WD-40 all the time as a cleaner, and during the winter I spray the trigger, firing pin, hammer, and all bolts good the day before going out to make sure there is absolutely no grease or oil on them.  At 30 below (or colder) any trace of grease or oil will stop a gun from firing.  I usually have two or three cans on my bench at all times.  I also keep a small can in my day pack.  When reloading I use WD-40 to clean my caases after resizing to remove the lubricant, and after tumbling to remove the dust from the media.  And no I don't experience misfires from using WD-40, I don't spray it in the cases, just on the outside, then wipe it off with a rag.

I do have a Remington 870, and on the end of the carton it says "Parkerized".  Don't know if it is an Express or not, (really don't think it is) but the stock has a real dull finish on it. 
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2010, 11:56:11 AM »
It must be something special because Remington doesn't Parkerize their hunting guns.  Perhaps it's a tactical version.
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2010, 04:07:22 PM »
Ive used WD-40 for years and have to wonder about this recurring comment that 'it gums things up'. I cant say that Ive ever had it do so when it was the only surface treatment in a mechanism. What I have seen, is when it has been used as a cleaner/flusher and it softened up the gunk in something and the mechanism was not completely flushed out, or dissasembled and wiped off, that the gunk 're-set' after the WD-40 carrier evaporated. Its just so easy to spray something down and say 'Ive cleaned it' and believe that you did.
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2010, 04:17:44 PM »
Ive used WD-40 for years and have to wonder about this recurring comment that 'it gums things up'. I cant say that Ive every had it do so when it was the only surface treatment in a mechanism. What I have seen, is when it has been used as a cleaner/flusher and it softened up the gunk in something and the mechanism was not completely flushed out, or dissasembled and wiped off, that the gunk 're-set' after the WD-40 carrier evaporated. Its just so easy to spray something down and say 'Ive cleaned it' and believe that you did.

I agree, I believe the myth was created by those trying to sell other products for more money.
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2010, 08:41:53 PM »
I kind of have to agree also, I use WD-40 to displace all the water that I rinse the barrels with after parkerizing them.  In a couple of hours there is near nothing on them, they are dry mostly, no water but no oil either.  I then put real oil on the barrels and they are good to go.  Larry
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Re: Parkerized barrel care
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2010, 06:16:46 AM »
Whatever Larry does it must work... the 32-20 barrel he made for me is parked and has never gotten a speck of rust on it. :)



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