Author Topic: .45 Colt in 1892 (Read 749 times)

jd45 · « **on:** January 03, 2004, 12:23:24 PM »

Would someone help enlighten me as to why, as I've read on this board, you don't want to drive a hardcast or, for that matter, a jacketed bullet, such as a Hornady 300xtp, faster than about 1400fps. Is it because they have a tendency to break up when they hit the target medium? Or is there another reason or reasons. I'm just curious. Thanx for the feedback.jd45.
P.S. I'm gonna use a load with the Hornady for deer in the upcoming season.

coopershooter · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2004, 01:46:16 PM »

I,m not sure about jacketed bullets, but i shoot lbt design cast bullets in .357 and .452 (colt) to about 1800 fps as recomended by veral smith, of lbt. i took a nice pig this weekend with the .357, out of a 22 inch barreled contender carbine.(i also have a ss rossi puma in .357) the pig was about 160lbs. i took him broad side, at 90 yds. with the 185gr gas checked bullet. it broke both sholders and exited the off side. the pig fell over, kicked a few times and died before i got there. i was impressed! it was the first time i used a cast bullet in this caliber. i have used 158gr jacketed hollow points before, but always shot into the ribs. that load did ok but only with perfect placement. now i have a load, for any angle! jacketed bullets can be great, but they can fail badly too! cast bullets always perform the same way. i,m not willing to take a chance on a bullet coming apart. i wish i had recovered the .357 bullet, but then again, i was impressed with the penatration. i have found my hunting load for the .357!!!
as far as the 45 colt, i load 300gr lbt gas check. to around 1700, it put,s hogs down fast and for good! it kills faster than anything ive seen, including 12ga. shotgun slugs(full caliber ) not sabot,s. the recoil is pretty rough out of a six pound carbine though!think about it! its not far behind a 45/70.
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454Puma · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2004, 04:56:15 PM »

jd45
Shooting plain base cast bullets at faster then 1400 fps will probably give a leading problem. Gas checked bullet can be pushed faster 1600-1700 with out any problems. As for XTPs not the Mag veriaty they will break up at close range at 1400fps+ they are not made for that. Now the XTP Mag will not break up at 1400 FPS but when they slow to 1200 fps and below they might not expand either. That gives you a smaller window to shoot in with a 45 LC say out to 135 yds before they slow down below 1200 fps. :-)

John Y Cannuck · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2004, 12:29:39 AM »

I have shot hard cast gas checked 170 grain cast bullets from the 30-30 at 2100 fps. Leading was not an issue.
Plain base hard 340 grain hard cast bullets from the 45-70 at the same speed left me with a barrel that was grey from end to end. (and a respect for recoil :eek: )

WD45 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2004, 01:19:02 AM »

While I have not done massive testing on this I have observed the following.
Out of all the deer I have shot or seen shot with 250 gr and above bullets running between 1200 and 1500 FPS none have stayed in the deer.
once a bullet goes through it can do no more damage so the only thing gained by funning it faster is maybe a little less drop and a little more shooting distance on deer sized animals even up to mule deer.
If a 300 grain bullet will go end to end in a mule deer only running a measly 1000 FPS MV and the muley was hit at about 100 yards how does 900 more FPS make it more effective ? It doesnt at that distance.
I have no experience with larger game than that ... Although we now have ELK I have seen no Moose here in Kentucky other than bullwinkle

So maybe someone that has will give us a little insight on larger game.