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Offline MLindsay

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pointed bullets for .444
« on: March 12, 2010, 12:13:48 PM »
I am planning on purchasing a .444 to use during the primitive weapons season here in Louisiana.  I have seen Hornady's flexible tip bullets but would like to reload.  Does anyone make a pointed bullet in .429?

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Mike
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 12:25:55 PM »
Welcome Mike
The Hornady's are the only pointed bullets I'm aware of.
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 01:29:38 PM »
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 02:50:07 PM »
Mike lets just make a wildcat out of that 444.  How about a 444x45-70?  ;D
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 03:17:22 PM »
If you're gonna make a wildcat, make a WILDcat!!! How bout a 444x45-120?  ;D

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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 03:28:30 PM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on March 12, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
If you're gonna make a wildcat, make a WILDcat!!! How bout a 444x45-120?  ;D

Tim

There you go Mike!  ;D That would get you up there with your 450 Ackley!

This is a 404 jeffery bullet .423 diameter 400 grains.


Talk to Randy & tell him you NEED some .429 diameter for test purposes.  ;)  Only .006 larger.
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 05:25:40 PM »
Those Hornady pointy bullets sure gave the old 30-30 some new authority.  Watched KP and his son take two nice Caribou last fall with a 30-30.
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 12:52:05 AM »
Doug,

I have a better suggestion, you should just give me your new 375jdj and I can use the 210 or 235 grn Triple Shocks!!!
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 12:58:40 AM »
Yep, Sourdough the Hornady "gummies" have impressed me in my 44 mag marlin, and 35 Remington.

Guys i'd go for the 444x45-120 but the bed of my pickup is only 8 ft the extra rounds would be hanging over the tailgate too far.  ;D
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2010, 01:22:17 AM »
Hornady's rubber bullets don't really offer anything.  You'll have to use Hornady LE brass or trim your Remington .444 brass back considerably to use them.  It's all just a way to sell us something new that offers nothing we didn't already have.
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 03:45:13 AM »
Quote from: MLindsay on March 13, 2010, 12:52:05 AM
Doug,

I have a better suggestion, you should just give me your new 375jdj and I can use the 210 or 235 grn Triple Shocks!!!


You're welcome to use it anytime. I didn't know Barnes made a 375 210 grain.   I've been looking at those 235 triple shocks real close.  That would be very deadly in the 375JDJ!  That combo would kick some serious ass!
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 05:11:31 AM »
Ive had 44 Mags and a 444 Marlin. I question how well the .429 bullets would hold together at speed in that wildcat.
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 05:15:06 AM »
I'd probably use the 355gr BTB in the 120 wildcat.

Tim

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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 07:17:18 AM »
Doug, I'm not sure they still make the 210 grain.  I have used it in the original X bullet and took several animals with it.

I guess I will load Barnes pistol X bullet in the 444.

Mike
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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 07:43:48 AM »
I don't see any advantage of the expensive 225gr XPB over the 265gr FTX, that's assuming you can get 2450fps with it, the FTX has a much better SD of .205 compared to .175 for the XPB.

Tim

Trajectory for Custom .429 Barnes 225gr XPB at 2450 Feet per Second
At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees
Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.195   0.195   0.195   0.195   0.195
Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2450   2450   2450   2450
Wind Direction is: 0.0 o'clock and a Wind Velocity of: 0.0 Miles per hour
Wind Components are (Miles per Hour): DownRange: 0.0   Cross Range: 0.0   Vertical: 0.0
Altitude: 0 Feet with a Standard Atmospheric Model.
Temperature: 59 F
Data Printed in English Units
Range   Velocity   Energy   Momentum   Drop   Bullet Path   Wind Drift   Time of Flight
(Yards)   (Ft/Sec)   (Ft/Lbs)   (Lb-Sec)   (inches)   (inches)   (inches)   (Seconds)
0   2450.0   2998.3   2.45   0.0   -1.7   0.0   0.000000000
25   2341.3   2738.1   2.34   -0.19   0.22   0.0   0.031315381
50   2235.3   2495.9   2.23   -0.77   1.73   0.0   0.064099937
75   2132.0   2270.5   2.13   -1.79   2.82   0.0   0.098455882
100   2031.5   2061.4   2.03   -3.28   3.42   0.0   0.134494560
125   1933.8   1868.0   1.93   -5.31   3.5   0.0   0.172335282
150   1839.1   1689.6   1.84   -7.91   3.0   0.0   0.212105968
175   1747.7   1525.7   1.75   -11.16   1.86   0.0   0.253941926
200   1659.7   1375.9   1.66   -15.12   0.0   0.0   0.297982590
225   1575.5   1239.9   1.57   -19.86   -2.65   0.0   0.344368399
250   1495.4   1117.0   1.49   -25.49   -6.17   0.0   0.393237863
275   1419.8   1006.9   1.42   -32.08   -10.66   0.0   0.444719319
300   1349.1   909.2   1.35   -39.76   -16.23   0.0   0.498923086

Trajectory for Custom .430 Hornady 265gr FTX at 2300 Feet per Second
At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees
Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.225   0.225   0.225   0.225   0.225
Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2300   2300   2300   2300
Wind Direction is: 0.0 o'clock and a Wind Velocity of: 0.0 Miles per hour
Wind Components are (Miles per Hour): DownRange: 0.0   Cross Range: 0.0   Vertical: 0.0
Altitude: 0 Feet with a Standard Atmospheric Model.
Temperature: 59 F
Data Printed in English Units
Range   Velocity   Energy   Momentum   Drop   Bullet Path   Wind Drift   Time of Flight
(Yards)   (Ft/Sec)   (Ft/Lbs)   (Lb-Sec)   (inches)   (inches)   (inches)   (Seconds)
0   2300.0   3112.2   2.71   0.0   -1.7   0.0   0.000000000
25   2208.9   2870.6   2.60   -0.21   0.38   0.0   0.033274498
50   2119.8   2643.7   2.49   -0.87   2.01   0.0   0.067934492
75   2032.8   2431.1   2.39   -2.01   3.16   0.0   0.104064740
100   1948.0   2232.4   2.29   -3.67   3.78   0.0   0.141755155
125   1865.3   2047.1   2.19   -5.91   3.83   0.0   0.181101320
150   1785.1   1874.7   2.10   -8.77   3.26   0.0   0.222203938
175   1707.3   1715.0   2.01   -12.32   2.0   0.0   0.265167016
200   1632.3   1567.6   1.92   -16.61   0.0   0.0   0.310095972
225   1560.2   1432.1   1.84   -21.72   -2.82   0.0   0.357096347
250   1491.3   1308.3   1.75   -27.72   -6.53   0.0   0.406271105
275   1425.7   1195.8   1.68   -34.69   -11.22   0.0   0.457715434
300   1363.8   1094.2   1.60   -42.74   -16.97   0.0   0.511512772

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Re: pointed bullets for .444
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 08:02:13 AM »
Since I am on the Barnes advisory. staff I'll load the X
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