45/70 Pointed Bullets...

[Marlin_444]

Hey All,

I am going to toy with a 45/70 single shot.

I found an interesting load -

45/70 Government (Ruger #1) 300 Gr. Barnes O Semi-Spitzer

Through Conley Precision and it looks like this -

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x264/M_444/Bullets/300GrBarnesOSemiSpitzer.jpg

Can't shoot these in a lever gun, but a single break open; I am picking up a H&R ...

Let me know is you have used any of these... 

Here tell I can get 300 yards out of the pointed ones ...

Ron

[quickdtoo]

I've shot a few of the 400gr Originals, and did a load work up with the 300gr TSX-FB using Barnes Ruger data, the 300gr don't have a great BC, so they aren't very flat shooting even at Ruger velocities.

Tim

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/45-70RugerNo1Web.pdf

Trajectory for Custom .458 300gr .Barnes TSX-FB at 2350 Feet per Second
At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees
Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.23   0.23   0.23   0.23   0.23
Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2400   2400   2400   2400
Wind Direction is: 0.0 o'clock and a Wind Velocity of: 0.0 Miles per hour
Wind Components are (Miles per Hour): DownRange: 0.0   Cross Range: 0.0   Vertical: 0.0
Altitude: 0 Feet with a Standard Atmospheric Model.
Temperature: 59 F
Data Printed in English Units
Range   Velocity   Energy   Momentum   Drop   Bullet Path   Wind Drift   Time of Flight
(Yards)   (Ft/Sec)   (Ft/Lbs)   (Lb-Sec)   (inches)   (inches)   (inches)   (Seconds)
0   2350.0   3678.1   3.13   0.0   -1.7   0.0   0.000000000
25   2259.8   3401.2   3.01   -0.2   0.28   0.0   0.032545769
50   2171.5   3140.6   2.89   -0.83   1.84   0.0   0.066402624
75   2085.2   2895.8   2.78   -1.92   2.94   0.0   0.101648804
100   2000.9   2666.4   2.67   -3.51   3.54   0.0   0.138367378
125   1918.7   2451.8   2.56   -5.64   3.59   0.0   0.176646439
150   1838.6   2251.4   2.45   -8.36   3.06   0.0   0.216579390
175   1760.8   2065.0   2.35   -11.72   1.88   0.0   0.258263906
200   1685.6   1892.3   2.25   -15.79   0.0   0.0   0.301800169
225   1613.0   1732.8   2.15   -20.62   -2.64   0.0   0.347289160
250   1543.2   1586.1   2.06   -26.28   -6.12   0.0   0.394831714
275   1476.5   1451.9   1.97   -32.86   -10.52   0.0   0.444524940
300   1413.0   1329.8   1.88   -40.44   -15.9   0.0   0.496457613

[Smokin Joe]

Can't shoot these in a lever gun

Just for info..........I use pointed slugs in my 1895; load one under the hammer and one in the mag.

[wtroger]

You might want to try the 325 leverevolution from Hornady they are pointed and shoot real nice in my H&R three shot clover leafs.

[petemi]

You might want to try the 325 leverevolution from Hornady they are pointed and shoot real nice in my H&R three shot clover leafs.
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+1 on that.  I shoot the LEs on target at 300 yards.  Last year, I took my buck with a LE 325 gr. at 220 yards.  I love em.

Pete

[Marlin_444]

Thanks y'all...

Any other 45/70 "Pointed" ammo out there to use???

[quickdtoo]

The LE is the only over the counter ammo with pointy bullets, Conley makes 2 loads with them, other than that you'll have to handload to get pointed bullets for the 45-70. You may have to throat the chamber to shoot the Ruger loads, they typically are loaded longer.

Tim

http://www.cpcartridge.com/45-70ruger-P.htm

[Dances with Geoducks]

Dont mess with them girlie 300ish grainers

500gr Postel, thats the ticket

[Marlin_444]

The LE is the only over the counter ammo with pointy bullets, Conley makes 2 loads with them, other than that you'll have to handload to get pointed bullets for the 45-70. You may have to throat the chamber to shoot the Ruger loads, they typically are loaded longer.

Tim

http://www.cpcartridge.com/45-70ruger-P.htm

Hey Tim,

Any issues with the Garrett BIG BORE stuff?

Ron

[coues2506]

I use 405's at trapdoor level for my hunting out to 125yds or so. If I need to shoot farther I grab the 270. I always find a shot under a hundred in the woods. trapdoor loads kill very dead very fast. Never felt the need for more. I can shoot all day off a bench with them too.

[quickdtoo]

Hey Tim,

Any issues with the Garrett BIG BORE stuff?

Ron

Garrett offers no pointy bullets, but there are no problems as far as their load level, anything safe in a Marlin is safe in an H&R, but those loads that they don't include the NEF (H&R) may be loaded too long to be able to chamber in some H&R 45-70s due to their short throats, nothing a throating reamer won't fix tho. 

Tim

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/products.asp

[kevinsmith5]

Saeco 21A GC from Western Bullet (in the FAQ's). Not really "pointy" but has a good profile, SD, and the cost is low. Work for me out to 200 easy, far greater with practice.

[sabbatus]

if you cast lead yourself lyman offers mold 457677  its a tapered semi pointed.  designed by paul matthews for bpcr shooting, but so far has been doing well with smokeless. being that it is a tapered design you can seat it way out there before it engages the rifling.it leaves enough case capacity to get 70 gr of goex cartridge grade in with a ox yoke wonder wad, about 1/16th in. compression loaded into the rifling