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U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« on: February 03, 2010, 08:15:57 AM »

U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
   
Clinton-United Nations “Small Arms Treaty” Update

Posted February 2, 2010
READ ALSO: Sec. Hillary Clinton — U.S. Support for the Arms Trade Treaty (Oct. 09)
The United Nations and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are moving forward with their plan to confiscate your guns.
The United States joined 152 other countries in support of the Arms Trade Treaty Resolution, which establishes the dates for the 2012 UN conference intended to attack American sovereignty by stripping Americans of the right to keep and bear arms.
Working groups of anti-gun countries will begin scripting language for the conference this year, creating a blueprint for other countries when they meet at the full conference.
The stakes couldn’t be higher.
Former United Nation’s ambassador John Bolton has cautioned gun owners about the Arms Trade Treaty and says the UN “is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there’s no doubt that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control.”
Establishing the dates for the Arms Trade Treaty Conference is just the first step toward their plans for total gun confiscation.
The worldwide gun control mob will ensure the passage of an egregious, anti-gun treaty…
. . .and that’s where Secretary of State Hillary Clinton steps in.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Once the UN Gun Ban is passed by the General Assembly of the United Nations it must be ratified by each nation, including the United States.
As an arch enemy of gun owners, Clinton has pledged to push the U.S. Senate to ratify the treaty. She will push for passage of this outrageous treaty designed to register, ban and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like YOU.
That’s why it’s vital you sign the special petition I’ve made up for your signature that DEMANDS your U.S. Senators vote AGAINST ratification of the UN’s “Small Arms Treaty.”
So far, the gun-grabbers have successfully kept the exact wording of their new scheme under wraps.
But looking at previous versions of the UN “Small Arms Treaty,” you and I can get a good idea of what’s likely in the works.
Don’t let any of the “experts” lull you to sleep by saying “Oh, we have it handled” or “Until you know exactly what’s in the treaty you can’t fight against it.”
Judging by Ambassador Bolton’s comments — who certainly knows what to expect from the American-freedom-hating international crowd that infests the U.N. — we are certain the treaty’s going to address the private ownership of firearms.
If passed by the UN and ratified by the U.S. Senate (which is where we must ultimately make our stand), the UN “Small Arms Treaty” would almost certainly FORCE national governments to:
*** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding citizens cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;
*** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL “unauthorized” civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);
*** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;
*** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION. So please click here to sign the petition to your U.S. Senators before it’s too late!
You see, this is NOT a fight we can afford to lose.

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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 08:35:26 AM »
This one has been debunked.   

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/international-gun-ban-treaty/

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As for this particular treaty: First of all, it doesn’t yet exist. What is true is that the Obama administration, reversing the line taken by the Bush White House, has voted to support a process that could, in 2012 at the earliest, result in a treaty.

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UN General Assembly Resolution A/C.1/64/L.38/Rev.1, Oct. 28: …Acknowledging also the right of States to regulate internal transfers of arms and national ownership, including through national constitutional protections on private ownership, exclusively within their territory…

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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 11:39:24 AM »
It is crap like this is why we are paying so much for ammo and guns.
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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 12:19:08 PM »
It is crap like this is why we are paying so much for ammo and guns.


And it will never get any better!!! only worse.
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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 02:35:12 PM »
Just last week hillary told the un  that the United States would sign the treaty. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 01:45:40 AM »
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Just last week hillary told the un  that the United States would sign the treaty.



There ain't any treaty.  There will not be a treaty until at least 2012. 

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 02:03:43 AM »
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Just last week hillary told the un  that the United States would sign the treaty.



There ain't any treaty.  There will not be a treaty until at least 2012.  

Does that make it good, 2012 is not much comfort. It appears there is no treaty as yet & I have no doubt Obama would like to use the UN for this purpose if he could figure out a way.
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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 02:13:15 AM »
me thinks the debunker is wrong..call me a man ,,believeing the sky is falling if you choose.. i hope i am just that .. but this time im thinking.. i don t see any acorn trees any where close to me..
 at least this post got my mind on something else. :)slim
 thanks poster ..i needed to get out of a rut of fear an depression..

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 08:58:31 AM »
If I didn't know better I think folks are using this to raise the price of ammo and guns.  This stuff is total BS!!  Don't get cought up it the lies guys!
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 09:30:48 AM »
If I didn't know better I think folks are using this to raise the price of ammo and guns.  This stuff is total BS!!  Don't get cought up it the lies guys!

In general, yeah.  International treaties deal with international issues.  What our citizens do within our borders isn't the issue, and no UN treaty is going to try to take our guns away.

That being said, while I wouldn't expect a restriction on US gun ownership to come from this at all (though such an attempt may come from elsewhere), I could VERY easily see a complete ban on IMPORTING guns - either altogether or at least for handguns and semi-autos.  That is an international issue and unfortunately, while I'd hate to see it happen, there literally is NO second amendment violation in cutting off imports, as we still could technically get our guns domestically.  Selection would be down, and prices would certainly rise with the drop in competition, but constitutionally, the law could pass.

I've seen the mindset before.  On another board I frequent (this one deals with building scale models, so pro/anti gun is a bit split) there was one guy who even after enough members provided enough evidence that citizens SHOULD be able to own guns, and he finally conceded that point in general, he still insisted that people should be limited in the number that they should be able to own and that all imports should be cut off (his words, IIRC, were "We should just tell those countries that we've go more than enough already.  Thanks, but no thanks.").


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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2010, 09:56:47 AM »
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If I didn't know better I think folks are using this to raise the price of ammo and guns.  This stuff is total BS!!  Don't get cought up it the lies guys!

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Every shyster gunshow promoter and every gun shop owner in the US is hyping this phoney stuff all the way to the bank.  Last week I went to a gunshop, bought two hundred small pistol primers at $5.50 per hundred and paid for them.  The shop owner told me I had better stock up on ammo and primers while he had them. Then he went into his righteous tirade about Obama was forcing the ammo companies to reduce production, how HR 45 was going to trash our 2nd Amendment rights and this UN lie.  Told the guy he is full of poop and left his shop.   

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 10:24:10 AM »
That dam treaty could very well take your guns! Should it be ratified by the U.S. Senate It would be the law of the land and supercede any local law!
   These anti gun folks will never give up and will try any and all means to get your guns!
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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 10:58:50 AM »
Well I'm just gonna rush to the phone and call my two Texas Republican Senators because I just know they'll put a stop to this right away. ::)
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2010, 11:19:44 AM »
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Just last week hillary told the un  that the United States would sign the treaty.



There ain't any treaty.  There will not be a treaty until at least 2012. 

Yes, I know that. She was basically promising OUR future support to come. Not to worry, I'm sure by then one of the 3rd party guys will rescue us. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2010, 12:49:30 PM »
You won't be rescued, but maybe the country will be saved by the third party guy. You two party guys are giving our freedoms away everytime you vote.  ;)::)


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Re: U.S. agrees to timetable for UN Gun Ban
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2010, 09:43:28 PM »
If you folks think the UN isnt trying to disarm the us, they get back to sipping the kool-aid

For you going to be in for one hack of a shock very soon

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2010, 06:42:12 AM »
I see that Sarah Palin is wanting to spearhed the Tea party movement. We might actually get a viable 3rd party. She's working now, thats what I've always  hated about these 3rd party miracles you guys throw your vote away on,they never campaign til almost voting day. She's doing it now. Good for her. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2010, 02:28:23 PM »
Id not worry about laws, or treaties.

In Austin TX a few weeks ago they shut down a gun show forever using a crack house law.

The APD and Feds, just made up stuff, and got it shut down.



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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2010, 02:36:46 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2010, 03:19:15 PM »
SWAMPMAN. Thanks, now I know where some of this garbage comes from. I suspect that several here not only have life membership, but probably write the stuff, probly stockholders in Alcoa too. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm