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Offline slim rem 7

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life expectancy
« on: April 08, 2009, 07:44:11 PM »
 any one know about how many rounds of 165 grn fed,, i can expect to get from my 110..just wondered because im spoiled an would dred the day i have to replace this gun or barrel... thanks slim

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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 11:52:46 PM »
You did not give what case you are using. I assume by the weight of the bullet it is a .308 caliber, but is it a 30-06 or 300 Mag. Even if we knew what the case was, it would be difficult to predict how long your barrel will last. Personally, I think more barrels are ruined by improper cleaning than any other reason. If a bore guide is not used the rod will wear away at the throat/lands until it is useless. Throat erosion is due to unburnt powder going through at very high velocity. The higher the velocity and the greater the volume of powder, the quicker the wear. A "hot" load will wear a throat quicker than a mild one (velocity of the powder). How much you can tolerate as far as shot dispersion is concerned is another factor. If your best groups are .75" and it opens to .9"; can you be satisfied or not? If not, then it is time to replace the barrel, if you can live with it, then you are still good to go. When would you replace it, when it reaches 1"? It all depends on what you will tolerate. I am guessing here, but I would think with a 30-06 that you should get 2K rounds out of it as long as you do not get the the barrel too hot, load to highest velocity and use a good bore guide before you have any noticeable deterioration in accuracy. Remember, there is very slight wear, every time a bullet goes down the bore no matter how well it is taken care of. It is very minute but a little each time until it wears enough away to effect accuracy. Every situation is a little different. For some 2K is a more than a life time, for others it could be one season. Good Luck and Good Shooting
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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 02:37:25 AM »
Not too many people shoot their rifles enough to burn out the barrel, that said, good for you if you can. That means your shooting it enough to stay sharp. But really, If I shoot 500 rds in my rifles a year that's a lot for me. Unless you shoot competition don't worry about hurting your rifle, just enjoy it and fire away. My Brother used to shoot Pistol competition and had two Ruger black hawks in 44 mag, 10" barrels and he did have to replace both barrels. But He claims he shot up to ten thousand rounds in the months before a shoot, and they lasted a few years of this kind of shooting.
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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 12:07:43 PM »
sorry 30 06 ..an thanks.. you are right though once i get it like i want it ,
its very few rnds go thru as i allready know the results.. im going long now so its taking a few more shots now though.. gotta have some fun with it somehow..the hope diamond is just a big blue rock when hid in some safe.. slim

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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 07:03:22 PM »
I kept a Browning Hi Power for 23 years before the groups started opening up and the slide got sloppy on it. I got a fantastic price for it,but kind of wish I had just kept it,got a new barrel,and put the slide in a vice or had a gunsmith tighten it up for me. I got tired of firing FMJ ammo all the time and it seemed every year the hollow points just kept getting bigger holes in them causing greater feeding issues. I sold the Hi Power and bought a FNP .45 ACP. I love the .45 but miss the old Hi Power. I know I shot more than 10,000 rounds through it. That is a hair over 8 boxes a year.

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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 04:45:59 PM »
With a 30-06 you are in between the barrel burning super magnums and the efficiency of the .308-type performers.  The 300 Win Mags tend to start opening up somewhere in the 2000-2500 range, occasionally more if a quality aftermarket barrel was used.  The .308 has been documented in some rifles as going to 10,000 while still maintaining great accuracy (FN SPR A3G / H-S Precision HTR), again with an aftermarket barrel (I'd say a decent expectation would be at least 6,000 with a .308).

Barrel life has a lot to do with the barrel's quality and the rate of fire that you shoot.

I'd be willing to bet you will still be more than happy with your accuracy well after your 3000th shot if you don't fire rapid strings.

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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 03:13:58 AM »
You are so right one who hunts and sights it in every year, the rifle will last him and several other lifetimes shooting it this way. The 30-06 is not known to be a barrel burner like the magnums are. You could shoot it more than 2000 times and it would still be accurate. And when the accruracy fallsoff you could have the chamber cleaned up and have the barrel recrowned and shoot it another 1000 or so rounds. Alot of people when accuracy goes south they rebarrel of trade the rifle off, when all that is needed is the affore mentioned cleaning up, cheaper than a new barrel or new rifle. And for the average shooter a rifle would never become to a point it wouldn't due for hunting. Most shootres can't get groups better than 6" and they are happy. Good luck Lou
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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 12:55:18 AM »
 thats about the best i do out of my 110..got the old man shakes..so if im gonna disgust myself i do it with 22s now mostly..that same 110 has one holed three shots when my hands were steadier..hence the being disgusted with my shooting.. i could drug myself i guess ..but i hate that feeling, because ive tried it..in fact i think i was doing that when i posted the opening thread..thanks for the input ..
 this post a bit later than first inquiry..thanks much,,slim

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Re: life expectancy
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 06:42:56 PM »
I used to shoot an M1A (7.62/308 Win)for Service Rifle in competition. I kept a round log. Barrel was a 1.5 on the gage as new. At 5,500 rounds the rifle still shot very well but was at 5.5 on the erosion gage. I rebarreled it at that time. For what that is worth.