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S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« on: December 20, 2009, 06:13:43 AM »
Well a guy I know that lives up the road from uncle let his son shoot his Mod 27-2.  Now Dan has several cases of Blazer Brass 357 Magnum ammo on hand.  This was used, and right now I do not know the case lots numbers.  But Dan will be in touch with CCI over this one, and I think will never use this crap ammo again.

Notice in the throat of the barrel, there is not just one bullet stuck but 3 and am real suprized that the top strap did not give way causing injury to the shooter.









Here is the Blazer Brass .357 Mag ammo from the same lot.


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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 11:10:39 AM »
To stick THREE bullets in a barrel is sheer stupidity of the worst order. One yeah I can understand, hell maybe a second if you're shooting really fast double action but THREE? DUMB! Had it been a lesser gun it would not have survived most likely the N-frame S&W is brunt strong when made up as a .357 Magnum.

I've used a good deal of Blazer ammo with complete satisfaction. I reckon everybody lets a bad one get by from time to time.


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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 11:33:41 AM »
Boy GB, I don't know if dumb or stupid either one fits THREE. Like you said maybe 2 in a rapid fire  situation, but THREE? I believe that may fall into MORONIC! That's one son that has absolutely no business handling a firearm of any kind with out adult supervision. Even if HE HIMSELF is an adult.
I too have fired a lot of Blazer ammo, with no problem. My question was when was it bought, how was it stored ect. Every now and then you get a ringer I suppose, although I never have. The 3 in the barrel however, is something I have never seen before.
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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »
I once saw a photo that was supposed to represent six in the barrel of a Ruger single action. That too was .357 as I recall. I think the story line said Ruger fixed it at no charge tho taking the bullets out I think was all that was required. There are some dumb folks walking around out there and no doubt reproducing.


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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 06:36:50 PM »
i have a 27-2.....its my only double action...2 other pistols being single 6 and contender......glad to know its that strong......................

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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 02:27:57 AM »
Whoever was shooting that weapon needs to play the lottery....that kind of dumb luck (stupidity) is rare to find.

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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 06:44:28 AM »
Yep, I fully understand the dumb statement, and he should win the lotto as well.  The owner of this S&W is lucky his son did not get injured, but he also did not teach his son to look for a bullet report on target etc.

Here is a cut-away of a Blackhawk barrel that had a simalar squib load problem, and was reported and unknown what ammo he was using here.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/28/blackhawk-barrel-takes-a-beating



BUT the concern is not how many rounds, but the first one that started this whole mess to begin with.  I still have not gotten the lot number of the ammo involved from CCI that is on the owners case lot.

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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 07:04:23 AM »
I got som Cor-bon 9mm ammo at a gun show that would do the same thing . It appeared "old" as cases were discolored on some rounds . It only took one round to stop using it . I called the factory and was told it had beed stored wrong . That's why i don't use their ammo anymore . Might check on how ammo was kept.
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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 07:35:12 AM »
That is amazing that it had five bullets in the barrel.  They had to have been really light loads considering that the gas from the firing would have to escape between the barrel and front of the cylinder.


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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 12:53:23 AM »
I have shot thousands of CCI's 45acp Blazers [in a revolver], no problem. I load very carefully. I don't use a progressive press because I want a look down every charged case. I would guess CCI's quality control is still better than mine. Squibs can happen, the trick is to quit pulling the trigger.
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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 03:54:06 AM »
I have shot thousands of CCI's 45acp Blazers [in a revolver], no problem. Squibs can happen, the trick is to quit pulling the trigger.

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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2009, 02:00:12 AM »
When did CCI Blazer ammo go from aluminum cases to brass cases(at least from the photo, in color)? I know it's popular internet gossip to say the top stap is the weakest thing on S&Ws but, those who believe this really should open any S&W cylinder and look at how thin the frame is in the cylinder window under the barrel, where the barrel screws into the frame?
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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 03:30:47 AM »
CCI has had brass cased Blazer ammo almost from the start. These days they seem to be phasing the aluminum cases out and using all brass. I've never seen any difference in quality or performance between them it's just that with the brass you can reload if ya wanna and with the aluminum ya can't.

If you shoot factory ammo only then it shouldn't matter to you which you use.


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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2009, 10:33:24 AM »
The last I bought Blazers a couple of years back, they could be had either way. Brass cost more.
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Re: S&W Mod 27-2 vs Blazer Ammo
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2009, 04:05:19 AM »
Up till I started reloading a coupla years ago, I ran quite a bit of Blazer ammo thru my .357s, both the aluminum cased and the brass. Most all I ever saw was JHP....I never saw any RNFP offered, and according to their website, they only offer a JHP in brass cased .357. I'm thinkin' your friend may have been shootin' someone else's reloads.
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