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Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel Efficiency



Should the government tax gas up to as much as $8/gallon? A growing number of auto executives think so and are urging government action.  (Source: The Energy Collective)
 
CEO at leading parts supplier: "Energy independence...ultimately means that fuel has to be more expensive"

It's no secret that when gas prices dropped early in the year and with the recession in full swing, hybrid sales saw their first drop in years.  Faced with tough new fuel economy restrictions, auto executives had come up with all sorts of unusual suggestions -- such as cutting crash testing -- but now had to puzzle over a new dilemma; what if consumers don't want the higher-priced electric vehicles that they plan to start flooding the market with in less that a year?
At a special Reuters summit in Detroit, numerous auto industry executives are cited as suggesting that the government raise taxes on gasoline substantially to spur the adoption of fuel efficient vehicles.  States Tim Leuliette, chief executive of privately held parts supplier Dura Automotive, "In the United States, we're afraid to touch the fuel price.  We've got to continue to raise taxes in the United States so that, by the end of the next decade, gas is about $8 a gallon in today's terms."

He adds, "What you have to do is do it in a manner that is slow enough and predictable enough that vehicle selection and choices by people over the cycle can be made in a logical way."

Eight dollars-per-gallon gas?  The idea certainly sounds absurd.  However, the idea of the government pouring over $100B USD into the auto industry and partially nationalizing GM and Chrysler might have sounded ridiculous a decade ago too.

Mike Jackson, chief executive of AutoNation Inc., offered similar sentiments, complaining, "The U.S. allows the price of gasoline to go back and forth across this line where the consumers don't care about fuel efficiency and where consumers do care about fuel efficiency."

He suggests a near term fix of taxing gas to around $4 or $5 a gallon to help vehicles like GM's 2011 Chevy Volt EV grab marketshare.  Jerry York, a former GM board member and an adviser to billionaire investor Kirk Kerkorian, concurred.  He states, "Unless gas is $3.50 or $4 a gallon, consumers are not going to want to buy those cars."

Hearing such pleas for government intervention and taxation certainly seems a strange one coming from the business sector, which normally argues and lobbies for minimal government involvement.  However, a growing number of industry executives feel that a $25B USD advanced technologies loan program and the expensive cash-for-clunkers program just aren't doing enough to boost the sales of clean autos.  The solution, they argue, is for the government to hit consumers where it hurts -- in the wallet.

Some are suggesting tax rebates at the end of the year for customers with hybrids and a food-stamp-like subsidy for poor citizens.  But at the end of the day the general message is the same; tax fuel.  Concludes Dura's Leuliette, "Energy independence in this country ultimately means that fuel has to be more expensive."

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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2009, 05:25:29 PM »
Quicker to just make it a class x felony to purchase or use any petroleum products. Be done with the auto industry instantly. Turn the US into a backwater third world nation.

What exactly are we saving this oil for anyway? When it runs out we will begin using a more expensive alternative. An alternative that by the way will no longer be more expensive. Why do we want to start using the more expensive alternative now while it is still expensive? Do we really need to practice?

Seems to me that we will simply lower the cost of fuel for the rest of the world. At least for the part that isn't so nieve as to think it is their duty to save the petroleum deposits for future generations. Generations that will have no use for them because we have switched to "alternative fuels".

Now here is a thought. Hurry up and get it burned. The sooner it is gone the sooner the world can be perfect. The sooner those "who told you so" can start patting themselves on the back. It is a forgone conclusion (according to the "experts") we are just a couple decades away from total depletion anyway.

Another question to ask yourself is this. Why are we dumping national treasure into maintaining and building a highway system. By these folks own admission we'll not be needing these highways for but a few years more. That treasure might be better spent on horse breeding and buggy whip factories, as well as steam locomotives and door to door rail service to the suburbs.

I'm just tired of hearing one thing and seeing another. Again why pay more now so we'll be able to pay more in the future as well. Maybe so these assclowns will be able to get as much of our hard earned money as possible? Both now and in the future? Sounds like the auto industry execs. have a plan to pay off more govt bailouts.
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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 05:40:31 PM »
Given the inflation that is going to develop due to the feds never stop presses at the end of the next decade 8 bucks a gallon will be a great price.
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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 05:50:47 PM »
I'd say you are probably on to something there.
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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 06:23:10 PM »
Hello All
     From what I understand we have more oil than the rest of the world combined. We are not able to get it because the environmentalists demonstrate and lobby against us using our own oil.
Its called the Bakken and under the Rockies also is another 2 trillion barrel discovery.  Of course we would not be buying middle east oil if we developed our own fields would we?  Check this out.
http://cleantech.com/news/2713/balkin-at-bakken
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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 11:57:14 PM »
I agree. More taxes is exactly what we need. Then I wouldn't have to continue to look for a job closer to home. I could just stay home and wait for that government check that never arrives. ::)
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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2009, 01:53:53 AM »
I agree. More taxes is exactly what we need. Then I wouldn't have to continue to look for a job closer to home. I could just stay home and wait for that government check that never arrives. ::)

You got that right.  I work in the service industry.  There are many times when my drive to and from a job location takes longer than the actual job.  The $4.00 a gallon gas we had last summer nearly put me under, $8.00 a gallon tax would finish me off.  I might just as well stay home and starve as waste time working and starve. 
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Re: Auto Execs Urge Government to Tax Fuel up to $8/Gallon to Increase Fuel
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2009, 03:31:16 AM »
We absolutely do need more taxes. If we had more taxes, I'd be able to go on the dole and I'd quit working because I would know I could live without a job. If gas were $8 per gallon, I'd only drive for leisure activities and not waste the fuel on work.
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