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what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« on: October 10, 2009, 03:20:22 PM »
Looking for hunting type bullets.

I can't get 165 NBT, or SGK's, or 168gr CT's to group for poo.

Would just as soon have a lighter bullet anyway.


I had 110 gr speer varmint bullets in youth loads group, but I need to come up with a 250 yard round for deer.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 04:14:39 PM »
You can't beat the Remington 150 grain Core-Lokt.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 05:15:54 PM »
+1 on the 150 gr Rem Core Lokt. Absolutely the best groups with this bullet.
I use 46gr of H4895 with this bullet, with mv of 2806. Got this load from the Hodgdon reloading manual. Hope it will work in yours. You know they all are a little different.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2009, 03:46:39 AM »
Mine is an absolute tackdriver with 165 gr. NBT's on top of H414 and H380. I seat them pretty far out too, half a seating stem turn off the rifling.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2009, 04:22:43 AM »
I would avoid the Nosler Ballistic Tips for anything but paper.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2009, 03:56:21 PM »
SST always seam to shoot well in all 30-06's i've owned i like 165's but 150's did well too. sure does knock the crap out of deer
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 05:27:04 PM »
Having taken around 20 deer with various Nosler Ballistic Tips and more than that with Remington corelokts I'll say the Ballistic Tip is the better deer bullet without question. They are generally more accurate, shoot flatter and kill quicker.  If your experience with them is small and you had one unhappy experience then what exactly do you know about the Ballistic Tips capabilities.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 06:10:38 PM »
Quote from: rickt300 on October 11, 2009, 05:27:04 PM
Having taken around 20 deer with various Nosler Ballistic Tips and more than that with Remington corelokts I'll say the Ballistic Tip is the better deer bullet without question. They are generally more accurate, shoot flatter and kill quicker.  If your experience with them is small and you had one unhappy experience then what exactly do you know about the Ballistic Tips capabilities.

While I do not have a .30-06 NEF Handi Rifle I have used 150gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips in various .30-06 Rifles ever since they came out for Whitetail Deer. It is my absolute favorite bullet for hunting Whitetail Deer. I have always been able to get very good accuracy out of them and the on game performance has never left my wanting anything better. While I have tried a few different powders over the years I have settled on H-4350 for loading 150gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips in the .30-06.

On a different note I am loading .30-06 "YOUTH" loads taken straight from the Hodgdon Youth Loading Data section for a buddies son's .30-06. I am loading 125gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips with H-4895 to a muzzle velocity of 2767 FPS (this rifle actually chronographs this ammo a bit faster than the Hodgdon web site showed for the same powder charge). So far my buddies son has taken a few Whitetails with this bullet and load with complete satisfaction, at ranges out to 250 yards. They recently went to western South Dakota on a Pronghorn Hunt but haven't talked to either of them to find out the outcome of their hunt.

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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 11:49:29 PM »
There is no worse bullet than the Nosler Ballistic Tip & there is no better bullet for thin skinned game than the Remington Core-Lokt.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 12:07:57 AM »
swampman, thats your opinion....
 several here counting myself are very happy with the noslers.
when properly configured and applied they do a fine job on whitetail
and other mid to large game.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 01:58:36 AM »
Ok, while any other time I love a healthy pi$$ing match, I'm going to ask for a little concise restriction here as my season is coming close, and due to the economic conditions I made the personal choice to liquidate/limit a lot of my guns.  I'm not going to be buying a lot of bullets to experiment with, simply because I'm going to make sure my little girl and wife are taken care of more than my guns.



So, I need to get this -06 capable of killing a deer at ranges that should not exceed 250 yards.

To that end, real world experience only: which 150 grain or lighter non-target, non-varmint bullet groups well out of a Handi 06.

These are Carolina deer, so no need for Elk like penetration.

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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 02:13:07 AM »
I would go with the Nosler Partition in the 150 grain as well.  The only other bullet I will recomend is the Barnes Tripple Shock that is a copper solid HP bullet and you could use a lighter bullet yet, and get awesome results.

Now Swampman, I too have used the Remington core lock with great results in 30-30, 7mm-08, .308 Win, 30-06 and the .338 Win Mag everything did go down with no complaints.  But if someone wants a premium bullet to use then we also recomend them to others as well. 

I know he will choose a good 150-gr bullet choice.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2009, 05:14:04 AM »
If I were looking for a less expensive bullet in 150 grains I would look hard at the Winchester Power Point. In my view a better bullet than the Corelokt as well as being much more uniform when bought in bulk.  I would start with IMR 4350 then try 4064.  On the other hand I would be concerned about my barrel if it were unable to shoot your first set of bullets well.  My barrel is not all that picky.  Are you testing after floating the barrel and doing the trigger? What scope are you using?
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2009, 05:34:47 AM »
I ran the testing floated, and with a small felt shim at the forend tip.

The scope is a Burris FFII, that I pulled from another gun.  Short of something divine happening during the move from one gun to the other, it should be OK. 

To be honest, I have a few reloading procedural suspects that I'm going to revisit, it's just that I want to minimize the amount of variables I'm going to be playing with.  Hence, if one bullet seems to perform better on the average, I'd like to have that variable set aside.  Likewise I forgot to shoot off bags and used my rest again, which has never worked out well for me with the H&R's.

I have a pound each of IMR's and H's 4350, and 4895 so hopefully one of those four should give me the goods.

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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Hand
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2009, 07:05:01 AM »
The Nosler Partition is too much bullet for deer.  A premium bullet isn't needed.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2009, 02:17:06 PM »
A good quality cup and core bullet such as Sierra  Pro-Hunter or Hornady Interlock should meet your needs. I personally use Hornady 165 gr. Interlocks in my 30/06 Handi.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2009, 03:44:10 PM »
Ditto the Sierra or Hornady.The man has said price is an issue.The only Sierra bullet I had a hard time making group well in any rifle was a too heavy for caliber bullet to start with.Question really is What can you find and get a load worked up for in time for the season.
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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 03:55:04 PM »
You should be pretty well set for Powder. If you can not find a load with those you are probably not going to find a load.

In the past 30 years or so the only bullets I have used in the .30-06 are either the Speer Spitzer Boat Tails or the Nosler Ballistic Tips. I have never found a .30-06 that wouldn't shoot either one of those two bullets to my satisfaction.

My current 24" Bergara Barreled T/C Encore in .30-06 is averaging .692" groups with 150gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips loaded with H-4350.

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Re: what 150 grain bullet -or lighter - have you got to group in your 30-06 Handi.
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2009, 04:06:05 PM »
I betting money it was the rest.

Probably putting a little too much pressure upwards on the fore arm.

And yes, 4350,165 BT's, and the -06 go together like coffee, hot peach cobbler and vanilla ice cream.

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