Author Topic: Not so proud of Americans (Read 1082 times)

Redhawk1 · « **on:** June 17, 2009, 12:47:55 PM »

As I watched the news, I saw the Iranian people in the streets protesting their unfair election. I have to admire the bravery of them. The cops and Iranian goon squads are out beating and killing these people, and yet they still stand up and fight. You would not see that in the United States, the United States is full of sheep being led to a slaughter.

Wake Up America! We have been watching the Government take over all aspects of our lives, and trample over our Constitution. The people of the United States are afraid of their elected Government, which is plain and simple tyranny. Any time the people fear their Government, it is tyranny. But according to our Constitution, it should be the other way around. The Government should fear the people, then we have Liberty

This administration is picking away at our freedoms, and the American people are sitting by watching it happen! We have had stimulus packages which has tripled out national debt 3 times what it was, the Government has taken over the auto industry and banks, now they are working on universal health care. They are trying to control the media and now ABC is their personal news organization of the Obama White House.

President Obama and his policies are destroying our country.

When are the people of the United States going to stand up and say enough is enough.? When are we going to take to the streets and tell our Elected officials, they are not doing right by the country, and we want a real change, not the false promises Obama told us just to get elected.

powderman · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2009, 04:32:20 PM »

For the 1st time in my life, I fear my own govt. POWDERMAN.

FourBee · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2009, 04:43:57 PM »

powderman the crack began in our country when the govt was formed. Now it's so big we all can see it clearly. The only hope to heal it is a good old bloodclot. If we're too anemic though that won't happen.

hillbill · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2009, 05:54:45 PM »

you have to admit, to protest in the streets of iran against the ruleing devil is takeing ones life in your own hands.very brave on their part.it just shows how attractive liberty and freedom are.people like liberty and freedom, just be glad our service men and women are willing to die for it.it shows that there are still some americans who know what this country is all about.i think we as the general public have become alltogether way too civilized. history shows that a group of people who become too civilized will always end up with the short end of the stick.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2009, 06:20:14 PM »

Very true, I served 10 years in the Military, and I am still fighting to keep our Constitution today. But way to many Americans are to lazy or scared to fight for there freedom.

Every time I hear someone complaining about our Government, I ask them what they are doing about it, and I get the typical reply, "what can we do, we can do anything"
I tell them get involved in local groups, and get out to the protests going on....

But most are just sheep, living day to day, not knowing soon they are on the menu.

no guns here · « **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2009, 12:27:38 AM »

Well, the welfare babies can protest all they want. They don't have to go to work and make a living for their family. The rest of us have to work. It's hard to take a day off when you won't get paid for that day and you're already stretched thin as it is. What's up with all this banking reform. It won't affect us... we will still go to work and do our damndest to pay our bills on time. The only one's it will all affect are the ones who don't pay their bills and who are stupid enough to get so far in debt due to voluntarily signing up for 21% interest credit cards. The rest of us aren't that stupid...

I've wondered before what it would take to get the average rank and file conservative American to take to the streets. I'd love to see a nationwide conservative protest in every little town and in the cities too. Wouldn't it be great to see peaceful demonstrations in Minot, ND and in Salinas KS, Sand Springs OK and little towns across this land? It'd have to be on a federal holiday. Most of those folks are too busy working. Even a couple of hundred folks with signs in 40-50 little towns in rural America would be great... just enough to get the King's attention and to start to serve notice.

We're coming...

NGH

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2009, 01:17:25 AM »

no guns here, my wife and I both work. we are both organizers for the 9-12 Delaware Patriots. We organize rallies, meetings and have formed committees. We had the April 15 TEA party rally in Dover Delaware where we had close to 1000 people show up, just after only 2 weeks to prepare for it, we have entered into the local 4th of July parade, and we are marching with signs and trying to recruited more people into our group. We have a rally planned for the 28th of June to protest the universal health care issue, on a Sunday afternoon in front of legislative hall. On September 12, we organized a bus trip to Washington to meet up with thousands of other groups on the march to Washington.

We have Political action group meetings 2 times a month, and have constant e-mail updates with our groups and committees.
We do this all while still working full time jobs, so don't try to make it seem people don't have time. It is not just rallies where people can help, send letters to you local news paper, legislators, call them tell them what you don't like about what is going on. Donate to local groups. It takes a lot of money to run one of these groups, and we did it out of our own pockets for the past 4 months. That is how committed to this we are.

It is that vary excuse that people use. You don't have to take a day off of work, nobody said take a day off, but I bet you know people that you could tell about the rallies, that may be retired or self employed that can make time to attend rallies etc.

This is not a conservative thing, this is a we the people thing. Uphold the Constitution as it was intended.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2009, 02:22:37 AM »

Americans ? or free loaders ? The country of equals is seperating into "groups" they call speical intrest groups .
If you have to put a name in front of American to decribe yourself then you put America second . IMHO you are living off America not being American .
Now what is there to be proud of in their case ? The true shame is now alot of the leadership in govt caters to this non Americanism !

BBF · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2009, 05:32:44 AM »

You all remember a certain Square in China where mostly student protesters demanded more freedom. I worked with a Chinese(not Hong Kong) lady and we both expected this to end badly and it did. Give the Iranian Govt. a bit more time and IMO it will end just as badly but in a greater extend for those that protest there.

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2009, 05:55:24 AM »

A few years ago my sister in law took in a fellow who was traveling around the country for some reason, I think it had to do with church. While he was there there came a knock on the door one day. It was the man from the zoning office. He said my brother in law had to get rid of the airplane ( a Piper Cub) that was in his back yard. It seems that the neighbor had complained. Mr. Zoning man climbed a ladder and took pictures over top of the privacy fence that had kept the plane completely concealed. The traveler got kind of fussy, He said this is crazy I no like this country. I think I go home where we have freedom... Back to Romania.

What do you think the traveler saw that we don't? You have only those freedoms that the Gov't allows you to have. If you think you're free you're kidding yourself. If you think you're free go out in your back yard and build a 10'X20 utility shed and see how long it takes for the Gov't to come and want to see your permits for building something that you paid for on your own property.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2009, 07:20:44 AM »

Rustyinfla, you are right. We have been giving up our rights for so many years, we don't know what true freedom is...

We fought England for our freedom, and now we have a new man in charge, but most think he is better...... Those are the sheep the American people have become...

Some of us know, he is a wolf in sheep clothing. I am a sheep dog and know a wolf when I see one.

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2009, 08:21:13 AM »

truth is we just want to set in that easy recliner an watch it happen ..until we get a knock on our door.. then we fuss a bit...we need Reagan type leadership [with ability to motivate],,,an cohesiveness... plus the realization that its gonna take a fight..
yep i said it ,, but heck im to old to hold a gun still anymore,, they can just bide thier time an i ll pass outa the picture, yep.. SLIM
ps george sang a song .. whos gonna fill thier shoes about singing...no dang socialist gonna take my shoes ...im taking them with me..

BBF · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:35:02 AM »

The " Big Turban" has spoken in Iran. The election result will stand let us see how long those protests will be allowed to go on.

SDS-GEN · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:49:12 AM »

Rustyinfla, "I think I go home where we have freedom...back to Romania." Interesting to hear this. My grandmother came from Romania. They were peasant farmers in th first part of the last century. She saw her father murdered by soldiers when she was a child and remembered getting shot at when she was retrieving water from the well. Mom died in child birth. Her sister got to America, then saved the cash to bring my grandmother over. They came to this country with nothing but a functioning moral compass and strong work ethic. My grandmother never went to school but learned to speak, read, and write ENGLISH. She married and had children, and always farmed, they had all the needed.

Interesting to see that someone from Romania would want to return because of restrictions in the land of milk and honey. We've fallen a long way in the past century.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:53:42 AM »

Quote from: BBF on June 19, 2009, 04:35:02 AM

The " Big Turban" has spoken in Iran. The election result will stand let us see how long those protests will be allowed to go on.

They have the heart and they will keep it up, even in death, not something most Americans are willing to do... I am not saying they are better people than Americans, but they have a passion and are willing to fight for there rights, which we as Americans have taken for granted... We can make a difference in America, especially with the current Administration attacking our Constitution.

BBF · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:58:43 AM »

IMO, there are only two possible outcomes over there now.
A massive nationwide revolt that will remove the present Govt.
A large number of protesters killed, a hardening of policce/milita supression to maintain status quo.

Dee · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2009, 12:04:27 PM »

I've got an idea. Lets' debate whom the next Republican candidate should be, so we can once again vote the lessor of two evils.

zacharoo · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:22:34 PM »

If our new president is so american why does he have to say that he is so sorry for what America has done. We have been bailing out every country d-m near in the UN since world war One!!!!!! My father bless his soul always said once you help them they think you owe them. WE ARE THE DEFENDERS OF THE WORLD!!! WHY CAN'T SOME ONE PAY US BACK FOR OUR TROUBLES!!! It makes me mad to see our president grovel under the eyes of our these liberal spineless DAMOCRAPS!!

Zacharoo

Dee · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2009, 04:40:54 PM »

Well zacharoo, of course your right, and so was your father, HOWEVER. We are at the present time helping a couple of countries that not only don't appreciate it, but didn't particularly WANT OUR HELP. Not everyone in the world WANTS to live like us, or BE like us.
While we are worried about the Taliban, and the deceased Saddam Hussein and all their atrocities, we have for the last 30 something years managed to butcher 50,000,000 + babies ( by the way that's SIX ZEROS, not three), and still counting. That's with REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE IN CHARGE. TWO SIDES! SAME COIN! YOUR TAX DOLLAR, and MY TAX DOLLAR enabled OUR GOVERNMENT to accomplish that feat.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:37:56 PM »

its mabe time to pay now dee.. i keep wondering why we stay glued to our easychairs..
mabe its just time to pay the price .. jmo slim
ps the creator has certain things he just won t put up with mabe..

rex6666 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2009, 12:49:57 AM »

If i am not mistaken for about 40 years America has been telling the Iranian people to stand up and get your freedom, stand up
and demand it. Now they are standing up to a man like the American government has been preaching about for years and the American
leader says "we don't want to get envolved" and that is ok, But he is not the American government of the past 40 years.
Why would any people any where trust America, after this and the position or leader has put us in, in the eyes of the world
DAMMIT

DDZ · « **Reply #21 on:** June 21, 2009, 01:38:44 AM »

Quote from: Dee on June 20, 2009, 04:40:54 PM

While we are worried about the Taliban, and the deceased Saddam Hussein and all their atrocities, we have for the last 30 something years managed to butcher 50,000,000 + babies ( by the way that's SIX ZEROS, not three), and still counting. That's with REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE IN CHARGE. TWO SIDES! SAME COIN! YOUR TAX DOLLAR, and MY TAX DOLLAR enabled OUR GOVERNMENT to accomplish that feat.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

I agree Dee, How long will the blindness and callousness to the silent holocaust occurring within this country's clinics last before it reaches into the Nursing homes?

Its really something isn't it. If you destroy a Bald Eagle's egg you will be fined $5,000. Murder your baby in the womb and government will pick up the tab.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 21, 2009, 04:13:17 AM »

Quote from: rex6666 on June 21, 2009, 12:49:57 AM

If i am not mistaken for about 40 years America has been telling the Iranian people to stand up and get your freedom, stand up
and demand it. Now they are standing up to a man like the American government has been preaching about for years and the American
leader says "we don't want to get envolved" and that is ok, But he is not the American government of the past 40 years.
Why would any people any where trust America, after this and the position or leader has put us in, in the eyes of the world
DAMMIT

You are so right, America has been telling the Iranian people to stand up and get their freedom, but we all know this President will not do one thing. It is evident by his silence in the first 4 days of the protests.

Obama is a spinless leader, as evident with his world apology tour. You are also right about other countries can't trust the United States Government.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2009, 04:18:34 AM »

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magooch · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2009, 07:21:44 AM »

Our problem isn't that we have bad leaders, it's that we have stupid voters who elect bad leaders. Also, there is not a concensus in this country on which way to go on almost any issue. The only thing we have to gauge a concensus on is our elections and they at best are very suspect and unreliable.

If things seem to be getting worse all the time, think back to some of the truly bad things we've come through. The Vietnam War was much worse and more unjustifiable than the conflicts we are now in. As much as I disagree with the Kenyan who occupies the White House at the present time, I thought that Johnson was very, very bad in just as many ways.

In my opinion, there are two things that have to be done to get this country back: 1) We have to get rid of all the illegals that have invaded this country...hold your breath while that happens. 2) Our elections have got to be changed so that only legal voters vote and the votes are counted fairly. With outfits like Acorn around, I'm only expecting things to get worse.

I don't buy into the idea of having demonstrations and protests; I think flooding lawmakers with letters, emails and phone calls is much more effective and easier. Actually, protest and demonstrate if you will, but also write and call.

I also do not believe that abortion is the prime issue of our time. I favor abortion for all liberals--even late term and postnatal.

On Iran, we should be sympathetic to those who are tired of their repressive government, but that's about as far as we can go without giving the present regime a whipping post to base their taking ever more extreme measures to remain in power. I don't think there is the will in this country to get involved militarily and I don't think it would be accepted by the Iranian people.