Firing Pin Damage

[bangbang47]

I am new to the NEF forum and I am already starting off with a problem. I just recently purchased a used NEF Handi Rifle in 270 cal (SB2 Barrel). I have not shot it yet and noticed today that upon closing the action, it just stopped abruptly and saw that the extractor or ejector lug was hitting the firing pin. I had to pull back on the hammer to free the FP so it would recess back into the FP hole. I then opened the action and ran my finger across the FP and it was really pinged up almost to a sharp point that could cut your finger. Well I know I'll need a FP for starters, and my first question is, does the FP suppose to retract into it's hole before the action is closed ? Inner sticky or broken return spring?.

The other question is, if you send your rifle off to H&R for repair or re-barreling, do they send it directly back to you when the repair is completed or do they have to send it to an FFL first ? Thanks for any input.

[cwlongshot]

I am new to the NEF forum and I am already starting off with a problem. I just recently purchased a used NEF Handi Rifle in 270 cal (SB2 Barrel). I have not shot it yet and noticed today that upon closing the action, it just stopped abruptly and saw that the extractor or ejector lug was hitting the firing pin. I had to pull back on the hammer to free the FP so it would recess back into the FP hole. I then opened the action and ran my finger across the FP and it was really pinged up almost to a sharp point that could cut your finger. Well I know I'll need a FP for starters, and my first question is, does the FP suppose to retract into it's hole before the action is closed ? Inner sticky or broken return spring?.

The other question is, if you send your rifle off to H&R for repair or re-barreling, do they send it directly back to you when the repair is completed or do they have to send it to an FFL first ? Thanks for any input.

WELCOME!!!

 Yes, the firing pin should retract into the receiver, so yours has something going on. On older models this was common, but since the addiution of the transfer bar, the hammer is not on the firing pin once your finger is off the trigger.

When shipped out, it is perfectly legal for it to be returned directly to you at the address you sent it from.

CW

[bangbang47]

Thanks CW for quick response. I have no idea how old this Handi is, the Ser.# is a NK xxxx.

From what you said i think this has no transfer bar; when the hammer is down and resting it pushes against a vertical tab that pushes in the rear of the firing pin, that has a slight spring pressure.

I wll be calling the H&R repair department tomorrow any way because the reason I bought this Handi Rifle was to have a 45-70 22" barrel installed. I also like the 270 cal.
I will have them repair the FP problem also. Without looking at an action schematic my guess is a FP return spring is gummed-up. What ever.

   

[LaOtto222]

An NK would make it a 1996 manufacture. I could be wrong on this, but I think they had transfer bars in this year. Your description of a vertical bar makes me think you have a transfer bar. Those rifles that do not have one only have the hammer to push on the firing pin and should have a half cock position. The transfer bar should fall out of the way when the trigger is not pulled back. If it is staying in the up position it will push out the firing pin when the hammer is down. If it is staying in the up position at all times, it will push the firing pin out. Being in the out position, the extractor will rub against it, possibly wearing it down or breaking off the tip or even bending it. I think your frame should be OK to take a 45-70 barrel, but I would call first just to make sure. There seems to be some thing going on with the transfer bar and it more than likely has damaged the firing pin. When you send it in, they should be able to fix it for you, but you can get parts and fix it your self too. Good Luck and Good Shooting

[OR-E-Gun Bill]

Maybe a visual aid will help...?




Bill

[bangbang47]

Thank you LaOtto222 and Bill, after looking at the diagram, I now know my Handi Rifle does have a transfer bar. This means that when the hammer is un-cocked and at rest, and the trigger is released, my transfer bar is staying in the up position.

I sent the gun (minus the barrel) Priority Mail to H&R this morning to have the 45/70 Gov't., installed and they can fix the sticky TB and replace the FP too.

This NK model is a 1996 and even though it is 3 years before the 1999(*) magnum date, it had a 270 cal barrel(SB2) on it when I purchased it the other day. According to the year chart, the re-barreling program states any caliber with a (*) cannot be fitted with a receiver earlier than N (1999) model. Yet, mine came with a 270. Go figure. Anyway, thanks for all your help.

[OR-E-Gun Bill]

OOPS, forgot to say...

You are now officially a Handiholic.


Bill