Author Topic: Off topic (but I was looking at the cannon board at the time)... (Read 1159 times)

Victor3 · « **on:** January 30, 2009, 03:09:45 AM »

I work nights, so I'm usually on here in the wee hours of the Morning in my garage.

Long story short, a few hours ago while looking at Terry's canister rounds or something, I confronted a couple of teenagers who had broken into my next door neighbors' car. I was armed only with my trusty flashlight. Not too smart, but I was outraged and wanted to stop them.

They ran down the street as I gave the 911 dispatcher their description and direction. Cops came within two minutes (good on them), chased them and recovered a discarded backpack full of stolen goods. They got away over a fence

My neighbor got his I-pod and a few other small items back though.

The cops gave me some pointers - Even though you might be ultra-ninja trained in tactical flashlight use like me

, they asked me to please stay in the house next time and call them without alerting the bad guys and endangering myself in the process.

Good advice methinks...

44-40 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2009, 03:17:33 AM »

Easier said than done on the spur of the moment

dan610324 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2009, 03:49:04 AM »

never face an introuder without any kind of weapon
even a knife would do , better then nothing .

a cannon would be a bit difficult to handle in a self defence situation

Rickk · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2009, 04:08:33 AM »

Out in the front of my house the street drops off quickly. Both my front yard and the lot across the street overlook the street as it drops off by a good 15 feet.

I live in a fairly remote area, and this "drop off" appears very isolated to passers by.

One very dark night I was out walking around the yard with my 5 D cell Maglight in my hand.

A car with 4 kids in it stopped in this "drop-off". All 4 got out. I am guessing they had all been drinking beer because of what they all were "doing" while standing there with the doors still open to the car.

In this case a flashlight was all I needed to have a bit of enjoyment.

I waited for them to "get involved" with their "used beer removal procedure" before firing up the Maglight.

Instead of yelling human-like things, I started growling like some sort of wild animal. I was shooting for being "bear sounding", whatever that sounds like.

Apparently a black bear wielding a Maglight is pretty intimidating. I am pretty sure they were still in the middle of the "beer removal process" as they dove back into the car and sped off.

Sometimes a flashlight is all ya need ;-)

Rick

Double D · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:05:21 AM »

Despite what you see on COPS and based on my 16 years as Street Cop, Cops do not enjoy the footchase, it's the arrest that gets the blood flowing. The arrest usually lead to ending a crime spree...

You may have heard this before, but never take a flashlight to a gunfight...but it is nice to see that working the BPM&C forum is an effective crime preventive tool.

dan610324 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2009, 05:10:11 AM »

a bear with a maglite

thats even better then a cannon

I got to start training the local bears how to use a maglite , or even better my new hid light .
they are at least 10 times stronger then the maglite in similar size .
I imported a few of them for myself and my friends .

BoomLover · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2009, 02:12:01 PM »

I like my "hand cannon" (.357 Mag) handy for such unexpected events as this! Then you can give chase (if necessary) with authority! BoomLover

Double D · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2009, 02:43:26 PM »

BoomLover I have a good Story about chasing a guy in the town you llive in. Next time you see Monty Montgomery ask him about the murderer he and I caught right in front of Pitch's Tavern in the middle of the road going down to the port. Come back here and post the story Monty tells. Then i'll tell you what really happened.

Wish we had a cannon that day becasuse we were sure out gunned.

KABAR2 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2009, 03:14:51 PM »

I had a situation some years back here at the house, I fell asleep in the easy chair watching TV my wife turned off the TV threw a blanket over me

an went to bed about 1am I hear a car idling out side the house on the culdsac then I hear a male voice out side the livingroom window at this point

I grabbed my glasses and a 9mm on the table next to me, as I do this the screen door is ripped open and someone is jiggling the door knob!

I am on my feet and move quietly to the door I unlock it and swing it open flipping on the outside lights as I do, standing 6 feet from the door side ways to me

is a black youth about 20yrs old, he has his head down and his shoulders sort of scrunched up (I think it was the pucker factor) saying"my Fault!" My Fault!"

"Can I help you?" I said keeping an eye on both him and the fellow with the car running, " I think I wanna be over there" he points to a house 2 over,

" I think you should go there" I replied, I watched as he walked slowly over still keeping one eye on his friend in the car, he knocks politely on the door, it opens and he enters,

the car moves off and parks, I doubt he has ever jiggled a door he was unsure of again!

I am sure there are those who feel I should have hid behind my door and waited for what might have come,

I am proactive I believe in meeting evil head on, I don't believe in cowering waiting for it to come to me.

At the time my budget only allowed for a surplus Astra 9mm, in 2005 I up graded my CCW to a ParaOrdnance P14-45 with extra mags

I can keep all 14 rounds in a 3 to 4 inch hole on a target at 15 yrds rapid fire. good enough to stop what ever may come.

Allen <><

cannonmn · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2009, 10:09:56 PM »

The trusty 12-gauge double, with magnum 00 buck loads in each barrel is what I took on my one such encounter with one such local perpetrator. I told him to get on the ground and not move at all until the police showed up. That's what he did.

Make sure you describe to the 911 operator that it is the "good guy" that has the gun or you might get "taken out" by nervous, trigger-happy cops. That's the reason I've re-thought how that came off and figured I'd probably just make the call next time and leave 'ole Betsy in the corner, unless they were breaking into my house of course.

Later I found out the perpetrator was a hyperactive neighborhood teen who worked his hyperactivity out by climbing on roofs of houses at night. I hope at least our encounter has convinced him to work it out in some way other than the nocturnal roof-climbing.

Victor3 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2009, 11:48:59 PM »

Quote from: dan610324 on January 30, 2009, 03:49:04 AM

never face an introuder without any kind of weapon
even a knife would do , better then nothing .

I've got a couple of 'friends' in the garage who could have backed me up. Seeing the two skinny kids out the window, I didn't take a weapon with me. Again, not too smart. The .45 ended another car break-in (my car) about 15 years ago.

I've had to bring a gun outside of my home to stop trouble three times in my life; thank God that only the sight of a gun was required. ~20 years ago it was to end a serious beating of a girl by her drunken boyfriend.

Gotta get a cannon on display in the yard. Maybe it will act as a crime deterrent so me and the handguns can stay in the house.

dan610324 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2009, 12:42:29 AM »

you maybe have a higher criminality rate in the states , but at least you are aloved to defend yourself and your property . in sweden we aint aloved to do so .

an very good example of that happened a year ago .

it was a bunch of youngsters that had been herassing a family for many years and beaten up their son several times , they was very well known both by the police and the people in the town because of their behavior .
suddenly one night they was comming armed with bats and iron pipes , shouting that they would kill the whole family .
the father went outside with his shotgun and told them to leave , when they was uncomfortable close and tried to hit him he shot 2 of them and reloaded the shotgun .
the rest run away , now he is prosecuted for murder .

so you should be happy that you lives in usa

KABAR2 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2009, 01:54:59 AM »

Quote from: dan610324 on January 31, 2009, 12:42:29 AM

you maybe have a higher criminality rate in the states , but at least you are aloved to defend yourself and your property . in sweden we aint aloved to do so .

an very good example of that happened a year ago .

it was a bunch of youngsters that had been herassing a family for many years and beaten up their son several times , they was very well known both by the police and the people in the town because of their behavior .
suddenly one night they was comming armed with bats and iron pipes , shouting that they would kill the whole family .
the father went outside with his shotgun and told them to leave , when they was uncomfortable close and tried to hit him he shot 2 of them and reloaded the shotgun .
the rest run away , now he is prosecuted for murder .

so you should be happy that you lives in usa

Dan,

The father in this case depending on the area of the country would be in just as much trouble here
as he is in your country,
our laws vary from State to State, Florida has what is called the Castle doctrine where if you feel your life is threatened you may use deadly force,
New York is at the other end of the spectrum if someone breaks into your house you are supposed to run away and hide.
it's getting worse in most areas and I am afraid with the present administration we will be looking
more like England and their laws before long.

Terry C. · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2009, 03:52:30 AM »

An old photo, but what a pair!

The revolver with the ¼-scale Napoleon barrel is a S&W Model 66 ('72 vintage) .357 Magnum.

In reality, anyone stupid enough to ignore my warnings and confront me in my home is much more likely to come face-to-muzzle with an 18½" Maverick 12 gauge pump. The handguns are usually kept locked up.

I keep it loaded with 2¾" Federal Tactical (low recoil) #4 Buckshot. Five in the mag, chamber empty.

(Note: 'Low recoil' is a relative term, it still kicks. Hard. Especially with the buttstock off and the pistol grip attached.)

I prefer the #4 over the 00 for a house gun.

Akin to the choice between canister or grapeshot...

dan610324 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2009, 04:36:24 AM »

sorry to hear that

RocklockI · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2009, 06:11:45 AM »

Never Mind

Tropico · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2009, 08:10:16 PM »

As I read this post ., I have to think about some of this. I have a concealed pistol permit . This means I can carry ., but I cant used it or even show it . I have a .357 Ruger Vaquero and cant keep a rapid fire 4" group at 15 paces ., But I can hit a chest at 10 feet thumbing the hammer. And in the meantime I have to decide if protecting myself in my own home would be worth going to prison for life . I can take an #ss beating before spending my life in prison ., Sadly I just dont have enough time left in my life to protect myself . Thats where we've come to in Washington State. I believe if I were to stay in the states for my retirement ., I would have to move to Arizona or even better Texas. I believe they still have rights there. I cant believe we have to become dead victims before we can defend ourselves but thats where we are. Amazing. If I were a criminal I would be protected from the homeowners I am stealing from.

dan610324 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2009, 02:44:58 AM »

yeah its a shame that honest people cant defend themself and their family from criminals ,
but in that situation I would rather kill then get killed .
god help me that I never will be put in a similar situation .

I just must add another comment here also .
if you for example are a shop owner here in sweden and you go down to your shop because you hear some burglars and they run away , then you will get sued if you havent cleaned up the sidewalk from the nights snow outside your store if the burglar falls and brake a leg or similar .

this isnt a joke , one of my friends was sued just because of this , and it was extremely costly for him .

Double D · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2009, 03:23:26 AM »

Okay we are drifting pretty far off her into politics, so lets shut this down.

dan610324 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2009, 08:40:03 AM »

sorry DD , much of it was my fault .

barefiel76 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2009, 02:53:22 PM »

Along the same lines.... We heard a noise outside of our house a few weeks ago that woke us from sleeping. I jump out of bed, grab a .357 and put on the first pair of shoes I saw. After walking around the house and coming very close to ruining a deer's evening. (Deer should not rub against siding, it scares people.) I walk in off the porch to have my wife laughing hysterically. She proclaims that me "Walking around in black dress shoes and stripped boxers would have done the trick to scare people off, I don't need to hold a gun next to my leg." Needless to say the neighbors have been a little distant lately, probably because my wife told all of them what happened.

barefiel76 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2009, 02:56:46 PM »

Sorry, I did not see the shut it down post. My apologies.