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Locked Keys in Car?
« on: April 03, 2007, 01:46:04 AM »
Actually a modern indian trick.
If you have auto lock/unlock car doors just call home on your cell phone, have wife find spare key transmitter, hold your cell phone about 1 foot from the door lock and have wife at home press 'unlock' button into the home phone mouth piece or her cell phone mouth piece.,,,and presto! 
Works well...

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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2007, 02:42:29 AM »
TM7,

I have never seen that work any time we have tried it. The remote is sending a RF signal, now if it was just an acoustic signal it might work. If your wondering who the we is, it was a group of ham radio operators, we tried it over cell phones, HTs and about any thing else we could think of. None of them worked for us.

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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2007, 08:13:53 AM »
Impossible,it would only have a chance of working if the transmitter was emmiting some kind of subsonic tone,even then i doubt any cell phone speaker could reproduce it.
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2007, 11:27:15 AM »
And if you do this while hopping on one foot, you will be able to run your car on water from then on.
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2007, 11:33:22 AM »
Heard it, tried it, didn't work. ;)
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2007, 03:45:30 AM »
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2007, 04:01:49 AM »
TM7, when you were testing it, was she in the house, while you were out in the driveway?  Or were you far away so there was no chance of the signal reaching the car without another means?  I have seen door openers work from a couple hundred feet away.
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2007, 05:23:16 AM »
If you have one of those remotes AND if you use it and ONLY it to lock up the vehicle then it's pretty much impossible to lock your keys in to begin with isn't it?  ::)


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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2007, 10:57:28 AM »
I've locked my keys in the vehicle I think twice in my life. The first I called home and got a spare set brought to me. The most recent was a few years back and I had to call a locksmith which my insurance covered.

When I got the 2005 Toyota Tundra I now drive I experimented some and found it would be quite difficult to accidentally lock yourself out. If the keys are in the ignition you cannot lock the doors unless you are sitting in the seat. It just will not lock any way shape form or fashion without you in the seat. Not even the remote will work as I tried the spare with the keys in ignition. If you've opened the back door which is about the only time I'd imagine me personally laying keys on seat it automatically unlocks all the doors when you close them even if they were manually locked before. So you have to use the remote to lock them back. This truck makes it pretty difficult to lock it with keys inside, you'd really have to work at it. I guess I can't imagine a scenario to make it happen.


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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2007, 01:50:48 PM »
there is NO WAY a cell phone is going toreproduce a rf signal through the earpiece or a speaker of ANY kind.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2007, 03:05:59 PM »
It could happen. ;D
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2007, 01:30:23 PM »
I get a copy of my key cut and carry it in my wallet.  Chances of locking keys AND wallet in car = 0.

The cell phone trick is bunk, but there is a trick with GM key fobs that make them almost universal.
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2007, 05:30:02 AM »
there is NO WAY a cell phone is going toreproduce a rf signal through the earpiece or a speaker of ANY kind.

I would suspect that when the cars remote control button is pressed in the vicinity of Cell phone #1, the signal rides the carrier wave of cell phone #1 to cell phone #2 which may or may not unlock the door. The combination of frequencys has to be just right though…a lot of the boys in the hood can get into your car at night with a cheap universal television remote by pressing Power-Enter repeatably until the car door unlocks which even bypasses the security alarm.

This phenomenon can be further demonstrated by your car radio. It occurs when you hear a Morse code type of indent coming through the car speakers and can happen just before your phone rings or if the DJ at the radio station is about to receive a call.
My Samsung phone will not trigger this indent upon receiving a call in my Ford truck or in the wifes Buick but her Motorola phone will cause the indent to be heard in both vehicals.

Another example is when my Wife leaves her cell phone on the PC desk. I give her He$$
For this because the Monitor will go all watery just before the phone rings.
The FCC used to be, (or still is) very strick on what kind of interference that a transmitting device by a manufacture is capable of causing. A prime example was in the mid 70’s and almost everyone had a Citizens Band radio. 4 watts was the max allowed by law but if you tied in a 50watt booster, you could come across peoples Stereo equipment, elect-organs, or in some cases, the extensive dental bridge-work that one may have. Other cases during this time period involved living close to a major airport. The commercial airliner might just activate your garage door opener.
You know that the cell phone carrier wave is more powerful than this, but again is on a different frequency.

In closing I would say that Some of the Phones will unlock some of the vehicals but it is far from being universal as claimed. The interferance that the remote causes to the cell phone carrier is going to be weak so cell phone #2 is going to have to be close (within one foot) of the door lock recieving unit.
I find this interesting just because of the possibilitys, with free weekend minuets or free person to person that subscribe to the same company, one could possibly activate an electronic predator caller without worrying about brush interferance or distance by using the cell phones.


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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 05:45:12 AM »
BIG BS i worked in the mobile electronics field for 20 plus years first of all the feq. are WAY different cell phones work in the 800 mz range while remotes work in the 40-50 mz range plus remotes today have codes that change every time the remote is pressed. However there is a system you can activate using you cellphone from anywhere in the world this was before the onstar stuff come out. People always said holding the remote under you chin would increase you range because your "body" became the antenna wrong it was the way you held the remote. Bottom line don't lock you keys in you car if so keep a spare in you wallet or use a hide-a-key box.

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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 05:35:59 AM »
I can tell you for sure that it doesn't work with an LG phone and a 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan.

About two weeks ago my wife calls me at work, distraught because our son was messing around in her van and when he got out, he locked it up.  Well, she is in the habit of leaving her keys in her purse in the van, and low and behold, there they were (the van was in the garage)

I had heard this myth, and figured it was the least I could do for her to try it.  She held her cell phone up to the van, and I pushed the unlock button repeatedly, to no avail. 

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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2008, 05:44:58 AM »
I just keep a spare key inside one of those metallic boxes with a magnet on it, inside the trailer hitch....

I have a buddy that has a new Lexus...It won't lock when your keys are in the car, the car beeps when you do this...

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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2008, 11:22:46 AM »
I locked my keys out of my car once, it took an hour and a half before someone would help me. I'm glad they walked by because it ws about to rain and the convertible roof was down. ;D
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2008, 07:14:19 AM »
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2008, 12:54:59 PM »
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2008, 06:06:22 AM »
Or alternately you could punch in the code on the door panel. Ford has had this for 20 yrs. and I don't understand why it isn't more common.
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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2008, 05:48:16 PM »
wire a extra key up under the bumper, saved my butt more than once

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Re: Locked Keys in Car?
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2008, 03:59:42 AM »
I carry a spare in my wallet. I've had to use it more than I'd like to admit. ::)
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