35 Whelen

[poncaguy]

 Shot my 35 Whelen Handi Friday, still no FTF's, and the Mueller 2x7 Multi-shot scope make this a really nice handling rifle................

[EVOC ONE]

Great to hear. 

What type of ammo are you firing?

Thanks 

[Daniel Laws]

Yeah, those of us with the FTF barrels want to know.  Mine has issues with Rem. and my reloads both.  FL resized cases in the reloads.  The ones I had loaded up for my other Whelen, since traded off, are way too hot for this gun.  Only shot one, but the primer was flattened to the point that the machine marks in the receiver were imprinted in the primer.  Don't take much of that to get y0our attention.  I've come up with a fix, but it is time and effort consuming. 

[LaOtto222]

Daniel Laws - Flattened primers do not necessarily mean over pressure. It can, but this situation can happen too... If there is excessive head space (or some times just a little), when the firing pin strikes the primer, it drives the cartridge ahead into the chamber. Then the primer goes off causing the powder to ignite. This will stick the cartridge walls to the chamber. The primer is then pushed out of the case protruding past the end of the cartridge. The case then stretches to fill the chamber (just above the web area) and it flattens the primer against the breech face. Primer signs of over pressure can be misleading. A better way is to measure the case head diameter (just above the extractor groove) before firing and then after. If it grows in diameter by a few tenths of thousands, then you have a over pressure situation. Reading over pressure signs can be a little tricky. When I fire Winchester White box 45 grain 223's in my Ultra Handi, the primers are flattened out pretty badly, but I do not have an over pressure situation. It is due to the phenomena that I just explained.

[wcf3030]

Now back to the topic.
I would be interested in the ammo used as well.
The 35 Whelen is on my short list but I have been putting off buying it because of the FTF issues.
 

[quickdtoo]

Back on topic please.

Tim

[poncaguy]

Using 200 grain Remington Core-Lock PSP.........................

[poncaguy]

and I might add, very accurate..............less than MOA

[wcf3030]

Is this the only load you have fired?

[quickdtoo]

Unfortunately, the Rem ammo is all that's available, Federal is reintroducing the 225gr TBBC that was discontinued a year ago, other than that, Conley Precision and one other semi custom is the only factory ammo available.

Tim

[wcf3030]

Unfortunately, the Rem ammo is all that's available, Federal is reintroducing the 225gr TBBC that was discontinued a year ago, other than that, Conley Precision and one other semi custom is the only factory ammo available.

Tim

The federal load sounds seems like it should do the trick for most game.

[quickdtoo]

The 225gr TSX handloaded at close to 2900fps will do the trick in mine!!

Tim

[poncaguy]

Only loads, have 2 boxes, saving them for deer season..............unless I use my 45-70......ha

[AtlLaw]

The 225gr TSX handloaded at close to 2900fps will do the trick in mine!!

Tim

DAD GUMMIT TIM!!!  How come I can't find these loads!  First you come up with the 180 gr. 338/06 load @3K and now the Whelen at 2900!  With a 225 gr. bullet yet!  After our email exchange today I went down to the gun room and started bedding the (M-700) Whelen I picked up last year.  The 200 gr. factory load only gets 2650 +/- out of it's 24 inch barrel, so I think I can do better then that using the same 200 gr. bullet.  Also got a couple of hundred 180 gr. Speers but I'll probably use those in my M-99 .358 Win. this year.  There is a real scarcity of data out there for these two calibers with the light bullets.

[quickdtoo]

That's in a 26" RMEF Whelen , but Mattparliament gets 2810fps in his 22" Handi. That's a book load for the 225gr TSX using Barnes' recommended data which is 1 to 2grs over the XFB/ Reloder 15 data.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,100788.msg1098266994.html#msg1098266994

1. What load data do I use for the Triple Shock Bullet?

Answer. We recommend that you use the minimum X Bullet load data to start.

To compensate for the reduced pressures associated with the Triple Shock, you may have to work up 1 to 2 additional grains above listed loads to achieve equal pressures. Pressures can jump dramatically; therefore we recommend that you work up in 1/2 gr. increments until you are no more than 1 to 2 grains above the listed max load or until signs of excessive pressure are evident. Whichever comes first. You should watch for excessive case head expansion, sticky bolt lift, flattened primers or shiny spots on the base of the case. If you have case head expansion of more than .0005″ with a once-fired case, this is a sure sign of excessive pressure. You will have to measure your case head with a Blade Micrometer just in front of the extractor groove, or you can use a regular micrometer and measure the belt on belted cases, before and after shooting. When any of these signs appear, back down one full grain and you will have a max load for your gun.

If you do not feel comfortable working up a load, or don’t have the proper equipment, then we suggest following the recommended X-Bullet load data. For the 168gr .308 cal Triple Shock Bullet, use the 165gr X-Bullet data.




http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/load-data/tsx-guidelines/