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Offline moose

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new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« on: February 26, 2007, 08:33:24 AM »
saw the new round yesterday at NEF Display at Nashville NWTF "Turkey Camp" forgot to ask them if the new 308 marlin round would be in the handi's............?????
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 09:01:14 AM »
Moose

To be real honest , i hope not , i would much rather see H&R / NEF put the extra work into the rounds that they already have in production , case in point the 44 mag over bore problem or the 35 W problem .

JMHO

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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 10:20:11 AM »
I would doubt it. The 308 Winny outperforms it.
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 10:47:17 AM »
The 308 Marlin offers nothing in a Handi that the .308 Winchester or 30-06 doesn't bring to the table, as Stimpy said, it would be far better for H&R to work on the calibers that folks want than to offer a levergun specific caliber in a Handi. ;)

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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2007, 11:52:01 AM »
Why bother with a ".308 Marlin?"

Either stick with the .308 Win, or offer barrels also in .300 Sav or .30-40Krag.

Actually, there'd probably be lots of folks who'd want the .30-40, even if they already have a .30-30, .308W and / or .30/06 - or all three!

 ..... Then, ..... if NEF offered the .30-40K, no doubt some shooters would insist on having ALL FOUR!



But again, why bother reinventing the wheel with a .308 Marlin?  I'd take a .307 or .356 Winnie before choosing yet another new round.   ;)
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 11:53:16 AM »
P.S. ......

+1 on working out the bugs on already existing barrels.    ;D
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 12:34:44 PM »
.....and rebarrel the .444 while their at it..... ;D
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2007, 02:40:51 PM »
Better yet, spend the money on improving the manf. process to tighter tolerances, eliminating the occassional dissappointed customer(or at least reducing the occurance), and providing the bedrock for a much more convenient barrel program.....

But I guess everyone has their druthers...
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2007, 12:54:34 AM »
good imput Guys, i just saw the new round at the Marlin table and talked to the rep a little, did see 2 NICE thumbhole stocks that they are going to come out with for the handi's and i made a pic of them :o
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2007, 04:26:20 AM »
Quote from: moose on February 27, 2007, 12:54:34 AM
good imput Guys, i just saw the new round at the Marlin table and talked to the rep a little, did see 2 NICE thumbhole stocks that they are going to come out with for the handi's and i made a pic of them :o

And just where would this pic be?  Show us!

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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2007, 05:40:46 AM »
Here's a pic of the Thumbhole Ultra...

http://rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=GSB28T4

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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2007, 12:13:33 PM »
I really love this stock but I heard on another thead back a week or so that they want $160.00 for it. I think that is steep.
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2007, 01:31:55 AM »
wish they would make that stock in a lefty version.
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2007, 03:55:39 AM »
Only way I guess I could see NEF/H&R chambering this "new" 308 Marlin would be the push form Marlin themselves to promote it...but even then it wouldn't seem very reasonable as it was stated it's built for lever actions.
I agree, those stocks are awesome. I just hope the price goes down, that's a good down payment on a  new Handi, or a couple barrels, heck a scope even.
However, is it just me or does the regular laminated forearm leave a little to be desired when attached with this new stock ::)


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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2007, 04:39:32 PM »
I don't even think we needed it in the Marlin.  We already have the .30-30 and the .307 Winchester.  I'd like to have a .30-40 Handi too.
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2007, 03:03:21 PM »
Quote from: myarmor on February 28, 2007, 03:55:39 AM
I agree, those stocks are awesome. I just hope the price goes down, that's a good down payment on a  new Handi, or a couple barrels, heck a scope even.
However, is it just me or does the regular laminated forearm leave a little to be desired when attached with this new stock ::)
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A agree completely about the forarms.  I don't like the shape of any of the forarms for the handi's.  Not for the Rossi I'm buying either... I'll likely try to shape my own sometime. Wish they would make one in the squared off bottomed but angled tip... if that makes sense at all...  ;)
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2007, 03:13:28 PM »
You mean more of a Beaver Tail design? If you want to try your hand at making one, here's a good start on some extra wood:
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/BrowseEbus/Odds%26Ends.asp
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2007, 03:16:31 PM »
Yea now that you mention it. I think they look a little small. They should be wider and thicker.
Quote from: myarmor on February 28, 2007, 03:55:39 AM
Only way I guess I could see NEF/H&R chambering this "new" 308 Marlin would be the push form Marlin themselves to promote it...but even then it wouldn't seem very reasonable as it was stated it's built for lever actions.
I agree, those stocks are awesome. I just hope the price goes down, that's a good down payment on a  new Handi, or a couple barrels, heck a scope even.
However, is it just me or does the regular laminated forearm leave a little to be desired when attached with this new stock ::)


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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2007, 03:55:23 PM »
I'm thinking the best way to explain it is to show it....



this is a good indication of what i think is a good looking stock, although I don't care much for the "grain" in that example....

http://www.rifle-stocks.com/hardwood_grades.htm  -- on that page I like the "select grade" the best

thanks for the link myarmour, but I think I'll try my skills on some old 2 by's before I start paying for nice wood... ;)  be a shame to screw up a piece of wood I paid for...(i'm cheap like that... ;) )
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2007, 03:39:34 PM »
no i don't think they will bring it out. but i wouldn't see anything wrong with putting it in there barrel program. Who no's it might be a good shooting in the handy. On this point i would like to see H&R bring there barrel into a higher level like tc's. yeah you can't put some of the higher pressure calibers in a hr but look what they did with the tc contender.just take a look at fox ridge. the more custom calibers they have the more shooters will look there direction. just thoughts!
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2007, 03:57:22 PM »
Quote from: Swampman on February 28, 2007, 04:39:32 PM
I don't even think we needed it in the Marlin.  We already have the .30-30 and the .307 Winchester.  I'd like to have a .30-40 Handi too.

I take it you mean we have the 30-30 and the 307...but not necessarily in a Marlin correct...? Because if you do...you would have a very unique rifle...since the 307 wasn't ever put into production in the Marlin...and this is the reasoning and desire for this round to be developed..and used in them...

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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2007, 04:24:29 PM »
...I wouldn't wimper a bit if they could get away with chambering for the .30 TC, just as much punch as an .06 and gets there quicker than a .308.
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2007, 05:02:59 PM »
"since the 307 wasn't ever put into production in the Marlin"

It could have been.  There was no need to invent a new cartridge.
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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2007, 05:39:36 PM »
Quote from: Swampman on March 02, 2007, 05:02:59 PM
"since the 307 wasn't ever put into production in the Marlin"

It could have been.  There was no need to invent a new cartridge.

But it wasn't...now was it...For those wanting it in a Handi is the hypothetical $64 dollar question...and would really be a personal matter...If they did introduce it...I would hope they would at least make sure the chamber spec's were correct...but I am thinking more like the others and wishing they correct what they have before introducing anything else...

Sluggo...the 30TC would get my nod if choosing between these 2 as well...

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Re: new 308 Marlin round in the handi??????
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2007, 08:21:49 PM »
So wait, I heard sombody say that they wish they would make that thumbhole stock in lefty. They dont? and Will they if they dont have it yet? 160$ is a lot but it is sure a sweet looking peice. How many of you guys have made your own forearm? I would love to see some pics of em! How would you know if its (the homemade forearm) was too heavy for the barrel lug? I heard on the forum a while back about too much weight being put on the lug and it broke the welds and they had to send it back in to H&R.
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