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Offline RodBuster

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Dissapointed in Remington
« on: March 10, 2007, 12:29:55 PM »
I am a Remington fan, and own 7 of them. I recently purchased a synthetic adl as a "pounder" gun.  I removed the action to tweak the trigger and when I put the action back together the cheap #@%$
trigger guard cracked. They rely on a piece of plastic  1/8 thick to support the rear action screw, which is countersunk. I guess I should have left it loose.

What are the recommended torque settings for those screws?

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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2007, 04:15:02 AM »
Yeah, my buddy has an ADL and I always make fun of the trigger gaurd, but I wouldn't expect it to break.  Big Green might make it right if you talked to them, but then again, a trigger gaurd doesn't cost much.  Brett
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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2007, 05:19:01 AM »
What model rifle in Remington do you have? All my remington BDL's have a metal tigger guard. I own 7 or 8 remingtons. I would think they might replace it. Call or write them

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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2007, 05:52:49 AM »
might be a 710 i think they are plastic.
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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2007, 11:31:59 AM »
The newer (before they discontinued them in favor of the SPS) ADL's with the black plastic stock had plastic trigger guards too.  I bought two last year to play with, both had the plastic guards (it was cheap plastic too).

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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2007, 01:07:12 PM »
That sounds pretty cheezy.  As posted, have you contacted Remington??  Or where you bought the rifle?
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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2007, 06:24:06 AM »
The gun is a 700 adl with a plastic stock. The entire trigger guard is plastic. There is no way the rear screw hole can stand up to the pressure of a countersunk screw. I imagine they(Remington) would give me another, but that one will crack too. Likley those that don't crack are on guns where the stock is never removed.

I adjust torques, tinker with triggers and modify stocks, so the stock gets tacken off from time to time.

Midway has metal ones for $30. I'll go that route.


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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2007, 07:55:58 AM »
I'd make Rem send me another anyway.  That way they'll know that it ain't working and maybe they'll fix it on future models. 

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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2007, 09:41:27 AM »
Where have you guys been?  Remington has been using non-metal trigger guards on some models since the 60's.   While they aren't made to take abuse, and I'm not saying anyone abuses them, but they will not stand the same treatment as metal guards do, including over-tightening the screw.

All screws in a stock have torque Specifications.  I had a list of them at one time but I don't know what I did with the list.  I do know that those screws get tightened in inch-pounds.  Something like 14 inch-pounds or there abouts.  Each rifle has its own torque specs for the screws, or you could over tighten them and break things.
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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2007, 03:43:59 PM »
The owner's manual only lists torque settings for the model 710.

I would be happy if you found those settings and published  them.

This is my first Remington with a plastic trigger guard.

It would work fine with a metal bushing to take the pressure of the countersink. But using the plastic to act as a washer just doesn't cut it.

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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2007, 10:12:43 PM »
I think if you tighten the screws until they make contact and then give them an extra quarter turn or so, you would be ok.  Non metal trigger guards at one time were mostly nylon.  Whether guards are now plastic is a possibility.  But neither would take any kind of shock in colder weather like a metal guard does.  I have a anodized ADL in synthetic that would be my 'weather warrior' rifle.  I dont know if it is nylon or plastic, but it isnt important to me either.  I know it isnt metal and would need special consideration when being bumped or in the cold.  And as it ages, it could become more brittle... 

Without an inch-pound torque wrench it is only a guess at to how tight you have those screws.  In most cases, buying a inch pound torque wrench for such use is too expensive.   I dont have an inch pound torque wrench, I use what I noted above.  Over tighten a screw that only goes into wood and you could pull the threads.

When it comes down to it, some of those screws on the bottom of your stock can change the accuracy of your rifle.  Too loose or too tight, it creates stress and changes the group, sometimes with adverse effects.  The right amount of tightening would be where they are when you rifle is most accurate.  So take your rifle and enough shells to the range and tinker around with the screws there.

There is no 'one size fits all' when it comes to torque specs for screws on the bottom of the stock.  It should be tuned, like a piano.  Also, Remington is not the only one that uses non-metal trigger guards.  They all do it.
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Re: Dissapointed in Remington
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2007, 10:06:56 AM »
i called remington twice in the last year and a half and received metal trigger guards for the two model 700's that had been plastic (one cracked).   the remington employee told me the metal trigger guards were used on the model 700 muzzleloaders.   

they fit well and solved my concerns about those two model 700's.

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