Author Topic: Is the 338WSM or 300WSM....Safe in the Encore...? (Read 650 times)

PJ · « **on:** May 05, 2003, 09:35:28 AM »

I hear that the WSM's are not very good in the encore it this true...?
How is case life...?
VVC chambers this round.Hmmmmm I need to get another barrel but ,I want one that will take-out an elk or bear at 200+ yards.Oh ya I have an '06 that would do that but,another barrel wouldn't hurt

KYODE · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2003, 12:00:45 PM »

:shock: i was gettin ready to rip your hind end pj. yep, that 06 will do the job. but since your just adding a barrel for fun, then by all means go for it!

southern utah · « **Reply #2 on:** May 05, 2003, 12:28:40 PM »

got one from Bullberry ( 24" HB stainless) but haven't had time to shoot much, maybe 10 rounds. lots of info at
http://shortmags.org/shortmags/

I have a 300 wm and may be interested in selling 300wsm.

xphunter · « **Reply #3 on:** May 05, 2003, 01:03:47 PM »

PJ,
It will be fine if you don't push it to what you could achieve in a bolt gun or falling block action. But there are several guys who have tried it and have been frustrated because they did not get the performance (velocity) they had hoped for and case life was very short.
If you need a reason for owning another barrel, by all means buy one!
If it was me, I wouldn't. I guess it all depends on what you want to get out of it.
xphunter

jamie · « **Reply #4 on:** May 05, 2003, 05:12:37 PM »

Ck is right. The case is too short so when it expands in the chamber there is not enough case contact with the chamber walls to hold the case in place and that cause too much rearward pressure on the frame. It thought about this around a year or so ago and basically was told by the barrel maker that case life was very short due to the barrel expanding so much around the chamber. There isn't alot of meat left when cut a chamber for those short fat rounds.

contendernut · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2003, 06:03:55 PM »

FWIW,

Dr. Sharps from the T/C list just streched a frame with a Lazzeroni round and VV offers a replacement barrel in any chambering in exchange for your VVCG Lazzeroni barrel. Not sure what the details are for the replacement barrel, but if they are doing this, then IMO anything larger than a Win mag case is too much for the Encore.

Don Bower and JD Jones both use 308 case head dia.'s for there wildcats. IMO, they both push the Contender and Encore as far as they can safely.

PJ · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2003, 01:48:28 AM »

Been thinking of a 338-450Marlin or 35-450 maybe a 375-450.VVC makes a 338-45-70.Why not a 450 case...? Cases are stronger than the 45-70.I think a 35-450Marlin would be a elk and bear droper and then some.

jamie · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2003, 05:44:08 AM »

PJ, if you are thinking of this for your encore frame then you wouldn't notice any difference between the two. With the encore you can load the 45-70 hotter than you care to shoot it.

PJ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2003, 10:56:02 AM »

Help me out guys I want another barrel that will take elk and bear @ 200+ yards.I want at lest a 338 bore.Now that I have been thinking I miss my 358JDJ maybe I should be looking at a 358-06JDJ or 375-06.Hmmmmm I don't know :roll:

Jeff Vicars · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2003, 11:32:16 AM »

376 Steyr.