I have completely changed my mind about the 308 Marlin. When I first heard about it, I thought, I've got to have one of those then I started to learn a little more about it and I began to wonder. Now that I have the facts that I do, I don't have any interest in it at all. It appears to me that without the magic powder that Hornady is using you are going to gain very little if anything over the 30-30 AI unless of course you don't reload or are only interested in shooting factory ammo. Another thing that changed my mind is I finally was able to find a Savage 99F in 308 in a condition that was satisfactory, at a price I could afford. Out of a Handi, the only justification I can see for the 308 Marlin is because you want one, which is justification enough.