Ruger All Weather vs Rem SPS Stainless

[kudzu]

I have and love both the ruger and remington rifles. Have a buddy that is looking into a 270wsm and is between the ruger all weather and the rem sps stainless.  The guns can be bought for the same price, 502.00.
I lean to the ruger. IMO, for the same price the better value is in the ruger.  The stock feels better and the finish is much better on the ruger. Don't get me wrong, I'm a rem. man too., but between these two for the same money, I would go Ruger.  

ANY THOUGHTS OUT THERE

LOL DM

[Zachary]

Then it kinda sounds like you already made your decision.

I'd get the Remington over the Ruger.

Zachary

[Muddyboots]

I've got a SPS in 300 WSM and it has shot MOA in every bullet weight I have tried thus far. trigger adjusted nicely and I actually like the feel of the stock over the Ruger. I'd lean toward the SPS just for having more options in aftermarket for personalizing etc. My 0.02.
Muddy

[safetysheriff]

i did a study some months ago re: the metallurgy of Rem's 416 stainless vs. the 410 stainless in the weatherby vanguard.    the 410 is probably better because it is less 'porous' due to a lesser quantity of sulfur in it!   the sulfur makes it easier to 'work' with the stainless for a gun barrel.....but i prefer a stainless that won't wear out as readily.    

the metal i've seen and read about with Rugers tells me that their stainless is probably superior to Rem's 416 as well.    i really believe that Rem' makes a very accurate rifle.   but for hunting with a stainless rifle i'd go with either Ruger or Weatherby......

a couple years ago i re-worked a Ruger trigger on a few rifles....per the instructions on www.centerfirecentral.com     they came out very well.   just be careful to keep the angles proper and to polish the metal with 600 to 1000 grit wet-n-dry paper.  

i re-worked a vanguard trigger doing some stoning and polishing similar to what i'd done with the Ruger.   but it wasn't as easy to finish the job of assembling/adjusting the weatherby vanguard.    the Ruger was definitely easier.

take a look on the web 'search' and you may agree with what i found re: the metallurgy.

what do the others says on this forum?

ss'

[oldelkhunter]

I would take the Stainless Vanguard over either rifle. Yes a Ruger trigger can be worked over but the Timney version is much much better and you'll probably have to replace the trigger on the Vanguard as well to get it super crisp.

[Muddyboots]

IS 416 better than 410 in the application that it is being used? Not likely. Porousity of steel = corrosion in simple terms, however 410 SS is superior to blue steel and in average hunting rifle with average shooter, they will never wear out. I shoot 100's of rounds through my rifles each year and yet to see degradation of accuracy. My oldest rifle is a Savage 110 in 270 that shoots as well as day I bought it and I hate to think how many rounds have gone through it. Shoot thousands at priarie dogs? Then yes go for toughest barrel you can get. My luck with rugers (M-77 and No. 1's) has not been great. I've had 2 M-77's and one shot well and one ended up being traded in. No. 1 just beat me to death on every conceivable method of accurizing. GB warned me on it years ago but I knew I could tame it...yeah right. You name it and it was done to that rifle. Love the look, feel and action but hated the performance. Wish I could afford a Dakota but that is another story. Anyway, any SS will provide enhanced corrosion protection over blue and will last as long as you need it unless you pound dogs or bench it. Go with rifle you have most conviction you have on accuracy and feel. If it doesn't mate up to you with eyes closed when you pull it up to shoulder then it won't work. I prefer Remingtons and Savage over most rifles I pick up to shoulder but that is for me. They shoot well and I no problems in over 35+ years of shooting. Maybe I am lucky but it is what works.

[grousehunter]

I bought a Ruger S/S as soon as they came out with the LH version modell 77!!! it shot sub MOA till the temps dropped to 30 degrees! or below I blame the stock, but everybody claims the LAM. stock does'nt twist! I for 1 do'nt believe it! It twists!!!!

[safetysheriff]

i would contact one of the custom stock makers to see what they can tell you about that problem.    at 30 degrees the stock may be drying out because of the low relative humidity.......   maybe the stock wasn't properly sealed when it was being finished up.   it may be humidity related.  

ss'

[High Brass]

My laminated stock on my 77 mk II is free-floated and I sealed the barrel channel and where the action lays with marine spar varnish. Never had a problem.