Question about a Black Powder measurer

[Jeffery8mm]

I was gifted with a little measuring device that I need help with. It is a gold colored cylinder that is graduated .  By pulling out the tube you can measure more powder.  I think it starts at 50grs, how many grains is each click when you pull out the tube???


Also, does black powder measure [weigh] the same as reloading powder.  I can check this measurer by my scales if so.  If I set the rcbs scale at 80 grs and measure the 777, will it be 80 grs by weight??  Stupid question, I know!!!

Jeff

[slayer]

Jeff, are the #`s on each line? Some of them are marked? The #`s aren`t by weight, they are by volume in a measurer for Black. My first measurer was like yours, but the lines weren`t marked and got frustrated, then I found a deluxe one by T/C where it was marked and also have a little spout on the end to pour it into the barrel easier. Jack.

[MSP Ret]

Jeff, the volumn of BP, Pyrodex and 777 will remain the same however the weights will change. It is VERY important you measure smokeless propellants by volumn NOT weight. Therefore  the same Volumn of Pyrodex to BP is an equivalent load. although the Pyrodex weighs less. With 777 reduce loads by 15% per manufacturers recommendations, And Remember, the most accurate load is most often not the maximum load for that load of powder and bullet weight. In fact I do not know of one maximum load that is the most accurate load for that particular caliber/powder/bullet weight combination!!!....<><.... :grin:

There are 2 separate TC powder measures you describe, one for pistols and small caliber guns and another for larger caliber rifles, each is different. I have one for larger caliber rifles and it works flawlessly, simple is good. Check the lines with a scale to be sure, the only safe way....<><.... :wink:

[Busta]

I was gifted with a little measuring device that I need help with. It is a gold colored cylinder that is graduated .  By pulling out the tube you can measure more powder.  I think it starts at 50grs, how many grains is each click when you pull out the tube???


Also, does black powder measure [weigh] the same as reloading powder.  I can check this measurer by my scales if so.  If I set the rcbs scale at 80 grs and measure the 777, will it be 80 grs by weight??  Stupid question, I know!!!

Jeff

Jeff,

Not a stupid question at all. There is no stupid questions when dealing with muzzleloaders and all the Black Powders and Substitute Black Powders on the market.

If your measurer is for a rifle and not a pistol, it should start at 50 grains by volume and each graduation should add 10 grains to that. You should verify this by using another measure first just to be safe and sure of which measure you have.

ALWAYS measure Black Powder or Black Powder Substitutes (American Pioneer Powder, Triple Se7en, Pyrodex, Black Mag 3 and Pinnacle)by VOLUME.

Reduce 777 FFG loads by 15% and 777 FFFG loads by 20% by volume (85 grains by volume 777 FFG = 100 grains by Volume of Black Powder or Pyrodex).

Black Powder will be very close in volume and weight. All the substitutes volume and weights will vary, and some substantially.  

If you would like to know the weight of your 777 powder, first measure 10 volume measurements of the volume charge you would like to use and weigh each one seperately. Get your average and then you will know what the volume to weight conversion is for your charge. The weight of 777 will be much less than the the volume measurement and this is exactly why you don't want to use the same weight charge as your volume charge.

Always make sure what you are loading is safe, you may not get a second chance.