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Offline Buckskin

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New 22-250 bolt action or barrel for encore rifle????
« on: March 07, 2005, 09:03:01 AM »
I'm thinking of getting a 22-250 barrel for my encore which now has a ML barrel on it.  If I do, I'm going to get a thumbhole laminate stock as well.
This should run about $550.  Should I go this route, or buy a nice bolt action 22-250 instead for about the same $$.  I've always been partial to remington, but would love some input.

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New 22-250 bolt action or barrel for encore
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 09:13:53 AM »
I really love my 26" Encore stainless heavy barrel.  Also kind of partial to the synthetic stocks with it a tad muzzle heavy it points and holds really steady.  

I guess it's just what you want to accomplish.  You can put the trigger work and a nice limbsaver pad on your Encore stock and that will also be usable and of benefit with the muzzleloader barrel.

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New Encore barrel vs new bolt gun
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 10:01:14 AM »
Buckskin,

I would opt for a new bolt gun.  After my first experience, with Encores, which I intended
to do as you, just add a new barrel/chambering, to the arsenal for the cost of a new
barrel, I have abandoned that plan.  Finding that not all barrels simply pin to frames,
and shoot sub MOA groups, or even MOA groups, splashed a lot of cold water on
my hot for Encore fire.  I should have done more research about frame to barrel fit,
floating handguards, using barrel hangers, and the expectations of sub MOA
accuracy from T/C factory barrels.  When my 15" SS .308 Win. Encore barrel gets
back from T/C, it gets 1 good chance to shoot MOA, and if not, the Encore will be for sale.
Already, I purchased a Tikka T-3 Lite, in .223 Rem. which was suppose to be a .223
Rem. T/C barrel.  To expect superb accuracy,one has to gamble on T/C, or buy a "custom
manufacturer" barrel for $300 to $400, so I just spent $460 on a new Tikka, and had a
shooter.  I could have gotten a Savage Sporter, in .223 Rem. for even less, and I am sure
that would have been a shooter, too.  Another point, I learned in parallel with my T/C
accurizing experience, was the ease in which I can re-barrel a Savage action, into
one of the many wildcat chambers offered as well by after market T/C barrel manufacturers.
So that to changed some of my motivation for purchasing the Encore, too.

I am sure plenty of happy T/C shooters are going to add their positive experiences
with T/C, but sad to say, I am not one of them, and can not recommend them
based on my experience.  I have first hand knowledge of a couple of other
Encores, owned by friends, and most are happy T/C owners, but these folks
are satisfied with Minute of Deer accuracy.  I am not.

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New 22-250 bolt action or barrel for encore
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2005, 10:40:57 AM »
I also like to see less holes than shots fired on my paper.  That is why I am enquiring.  I was set to purchase a new T/C barrel and started checking some of these internet chats and found a great many people with negative posts about the accuracy of encores.  It very much suprised me!  I figured that this set up would be a no-brainer to get .5" groups at 100 (granted a bit of load work).  I am very much questioning this route. Honestly I'm not all that thrilled with the performance of my ML, but I got it close enough to kill deer and really haven't played with it as much as I should. A friend of mine has a 22-250 barrel scope set up on his encore that I'm going to borrow.  He hasn't played with it much so I will give it a good run and see how she plays.  I will give it an honest run with a couple differnt factory loads and report my findings.
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New 22-250 bolt action or barrel for encore
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 02:20:37 PM »
A friend of mine has the same Encore muzzleloader in SS.  He bought a .22-250 barrel last fall.  Put a 6-20 scope on it.  I was with him when he broke it in shooting Winchester white box ammo.  He had a 3/4 inch 3-shot group at 200 yds going so I egged him on to make it 5 shots.  The fifth shot opened it up to about 1 1/4 in.  He had been thinking about returning it because the scope mount holes were a little off and he had no windage adjustment left.  That group convinced him to keep it.  I wouldn't bet that they will all do that but some will.

Personally, I still like my bolt guns better.    :-)

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 04:32:23 AM »
I have heard of some outstanding groups with this combo, but also so real problems.  I have a friends barrel and am just waiting for some good weather to see if I shoots off my rig.
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New 22-250 bolt action or barrel for encore
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 07:27:07 AM »
I would go with a new bolt gun...I had a chance to hold one of these a few days ago...it balences very well for me...and if I wanted a dedicated varmint rig...I would probably go with this...


http://www.snipercentral.com/howa.htm


It just seems very sensible to me...


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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 07:35:56 AM »
Looks like a shooter, but I'm leaning toward a 204 instead of a 22-250.
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