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Hay Bulletmaker. Greybeard is this the proper forum for this
« on: March 04, 2005, 04:00:50 PM »
This may not be the right forum for this but I know you hang out here. If we need to move it we can.

I know you stated you were and old railroad man. When I was a young man in the mid 60's a friends brother got into a little trouble and disappeared. Maybe 15 years later he showed up in the lower rocky mountains in New Mexico where I was living at that time. Said he had been riding the rails and living in hobo camps all that time.

He said he stayed mostly in the northwest. Washington state to Montana being his favorite area. But said he traveled the whole US at times.

Have you or anyone else had any experience in this area. Interesting stories of your dealings either with hobos or as a hobo.

Thanks for your participation, Byron
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2005, 06:05:03 PM »
Hi pastorp :D
   Who knows, he could have travled on my route, one time or another. I knew and was known by alot of the old and young hobos. I always gave them jugs of water to take with them when they hoped on a box car. We never had any trouble with them, that is the old ones. The new breed was dangerous, that started about 1980, the old hobos wouldnt have anything to do with the younger ones. Alot of the young ones, was from mexico. They would rob and beat the older hobos for their food and water, that was if there was a gang of them. If there was only one or two, they gave or looked for no trouble. I got alot of stories about the hobos, if you would like to hear some, you can PM me. I would share them here, but I dont know if it would be the proper forum.
    I even got to meet box car willie, you remeber him? I met him before he got popular, and even after he was well know, he still rode the rails, once in a while. Meet some strange and interesting characters, and even was invited down to hobo camp for dinner on a sandbar of the Arkansas river.

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2005, 07:32:20 PM »
I would love to hear some of your stories and I bet some others here would too. Maybe Greybeard could direct us to the proper forum if this one is not ok.

When I was pastoring a small church one mile from Interstate 10 in southern New Mexico we too met many interesting travelers. Most people thought them a nuisance, but each had an interesting story about how they came to live a life on the road. I enjoyed all but a few who became belligerent, those I sent on their way. Interesting enought many stoped to visit annually on there travels. One man even starting planning his visit so he could go elk hunting with me and did so for several years. Another painted our church inside and outside. We bought the paint and he donated the labor. I could go on but perhaps we should wait for Graybeards direction. Regards, Byron
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2005, 05:40:37 AM »
I guess I have no problem with such here as long as it doesn't take over the forum.


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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2005, 06:38:02 AM »
Well Bulletmaker we have Greybeards OK so let the stories begin.

The bible talks about being hospitable to travelers and mentions the possibility of even entertaining angels as a result. In the 7 years I pastored the church near interstate 10 in southern New Mexico. I only felt that perhaphs this was the case once.

One evening a lone woman in her 40'sa I would guess came to the door of the parsonage and asked if we had a place she could sleep. At that time all 4 of our kids were living at home and the house was full, so we would let travelers sleep in one of the sunday school rooms at the church. The church was just next door.

This lady was unusual in that she was clean, not really weathered looking like most street people, her clothes were plain but clean and not very worn, her speech was refined, and she mention that she was on her way to a ceratin place on a mission from the lord.

Now many travelers will talk about God to kind off open the door to get you to help them. This ladys attitude was different. I did not really think much about it right then. Showed her the room, got the heater turned on, and got her some blankets and said good night.

The next morning when I got up I took a cup of coffee over to the church to give her and offer her breakfast if she was hungry. The blankets were neatly folded, the heater turned off, and the church doors locked, but she was gone. She would visit like this several more times over the years I remained in that church.

Over the years I have wondered If she was not an angel in disguise.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2005, 04:38:50 PM »
Being a young whipper snapper "22 years old" I don't have any hobo stories to tell. I used to hear about hobo's from the stories my father re-told that his grandfather told him.

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2005, 05:20:10 PM »
RedRyder, I would love to hear some of your grandfathers stories if you would care to share them with us. Thanks for your participation, Byron
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2005, 11:55:09 PM »
HHHmmm, nothing in paticular. My great-grandparents lived on the Missouri river near Jefferson City. My great-grandfather was in charge of the local rail-road station (don't remember the posistion title) around the 50's and 60's. My father always said that my ggf dis-liked the hobo's, but my grandmother would always give them handouts. They were never threatened or had a "bad" hobo to my knowledge.

I'll use GGF for great-grandfather.....

A few years ago a local hotel 5 miles away was being auctioned. This was a brick building 4 stories tall and squarish shaped. This hotel was almost 100 years old. The current occupant had died. They sold everything in the old hotel right where it sat in the house. In all honesty, the house looked like it hadn't been cleaned or touched since the 1950's. On the back step which was only about 15 yards from the railroad track, painted on the concrete, was like a tic-tac-toe grid, each square was about 2x2 inches, and consisted ot squares 3 wide by about 10 long. The paint was very fresh and new. It did not look faded from age a single day. Some of the squares had letter in them. There were quite a few people staring at it wonderig what it was. My father spoke up and said it is a marking left by hobos to which houses gave hand-outs. He remembered seeing them at the railroad station his granfather worked at and they were occasionaly left on his granparents sidewalk.  Remember, the hotel was auctioned in 1999.

Come to find out, the old man who lived in the old hotel was a hobo himself and was known for giving handouts.

I live near St. Louis about 75 yards from the track. Occasionally, the musem of transportation in STL will run one of there steam locomotives down the RailRoad. They always blow the old steam whistle all the way through town. Every time I hear and see the steam engine and the whistle I get enormous goose bumps on my arms and neck! It is a sight and sound to behold!

I never knew my GGF, I have always heard my father talk about him, but other than that he is someone who lived long ago. My GGF died in the real early 70's and he always seemed like a history figure, someone I could never grasp onto. Remember that I am only 22. When I was doing my Paramedic internship for class I was at an ambulance district that runs along the Missouri River. We were transporting an eldery gentleman from the hospital back to his nursing home. The man said he used to work for the railroad in Missouri. I told him my grandfathers name and asked him if he knew his name to which he exclaimed he knew my GGF and worked with him. This again put goosebumps on my arms. I asked him a few questions while trying to get a feel for if he really knew who he was. It was confirmmed when he said "didn't he pass away in the early 70's?" The gentleman couldn't belive he was talking to the great-grandson of his former boss. We talked during the 10 min drive. When we finally got to the nursing home, my partner who was driving hopped out of the ambulane and gave me a wierd look and asked what we were so deep in conversation about!

This is truely a small small world.
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