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Offline WhelenMan

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« on: April 19, 2005, 09:56:08 AM »
I'm thinking of purchasing a Remington M700  Titanium in 7-08.  I haven't seen much in the lines of reviews on this rifle and was wondering if anyone had any experience with one.  I'm mainly interested in the rifle, not the caliber.  I'm looking to stay away from the long action chamberings as I feel a 30-06 in a 5.5 lb rifle, maybe 6.5 lb ready to hunt, would be unpleasant to practice with..and I don't really need the power for it's intended use.

I had a chance to handle the 30-06 variant at a local gun shop and I'm impressed with the light weight and it seems to have a quality synthetic stock, not the usual flimsy crap on most of the standard priced rifles.  By the time you buy a rifle and replace the flimsy stock with a decent one, the $1000 price tag on the rifle is right in line from what I can figure...and you've got a lighter rifle than you otherwise would.

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2005, 12:43:27 PM »
Never seen or held one. Light they are but the 2-3 magazine reviews I've seen on them would indicate they are terribly inaccurate. No way I'd pay that kinda money for the lack of accuracy I've seen listed in the magazines.

I'd take a look at the light weight Kimber guns. Pretty close to same weight but very accurate. Montana I think is the name of them but just go to their site and look for the light weight guns.


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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2005, 01:10:58 PM »
I think the reason these guns are considered inaccurate is because after a couple of rounds, everyone shuts their eyes and grits their teeth before they pull the trigger. I spied one on the used gun rack at Gander Mountain, in .300 RUM, for $800. I would bet it didn't have 5 rounds through it. When I went to pick it up, I almost hit myself in the head with it, it was so light. Nobody in their right mind would want a gun bigger than a .243 or a .257 with that light a weight. When this one gets sold, I'll wait a month or two, and go back looking for it. I bet I can find it there for 100 bucks cheaper, and with only 5 more shots fired through it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2005, 02:19:07 PM »
I shot a friend's Remington Titanium in .270 and accuracy wasn't that great.  Groups with plain jane Remington 130 core-locks were about 2" at 100 yards.  At first he thought it was the ammo, so we changed to 150 grains, but groups were about the same.  Then he thought it was the scope, but I didn't think so because it was a Leupold Vari-X III in 3.5x-10x-40mm and those are not the kinda scopes that usually have problems.  The next weekend, he shot two more kinds of ammo - I think hornady and federal premium.  He said that the federal premium ammo (I think Trophy Bonded) grouped worse than 2" and the hornadys were about 1.75"

Given that I too have heard some poor accuracy reports on the Titaniums, I wouldn't buy one.  As a result, I did what Graybeard suggested - I bought a Kimber 8400 Montana.  Nope, I still haven't picked it up yet, but hope to soon.  BTW, my friend said the he sold the Titanium and bought a Tikka T3 SS.  He said that the Tikka T3 is a bit heavier, but it shoots .75" all day long with any type of ammo you use.

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2005, 03:31:12 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

I was aware of the new 84M Montana, but I wasn't aware that it was as light as it is.  It's really not a choice, especially at comparable prices, between any Kimber and any Remington...at least as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks again.

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2005, 06:48:03 PM »
I have a 700 TI in .270.  I have tried 6 or 7 different loads and all have been in the 1-1.5" range except loads with the barnes 120 gr XBT which were well over 2".  I have not heard of the accuracy problems others suggest.  The 700 TI is pretty popular on another site I frequent.  The only guys who have anything to say bad are the ones that hate Remingtons and don't actually own one.  The biggest complaint I have heard is that you will typically get 2 shots very close together and the third will be a flyer.  My gun shows this tendency as well (still total group typically 1-1.5").  I don't know if it's because of the thin barrel or the fact the stock is full length bedded and is touchy about bag placement.  I have just floated the barrel and bedded the recoil lug, so we will see.

In any case, remember you are talking about a 5.5 lbs rifle, with a pretty decent stock, and titanium action.  Kimber Montanas & Weatherby Ultralights typically run $200-300 more in my area.   I believe the Kimber's stock is layed up, but think the Weatherby is tupperware (could be wrong).  In any case, not sure there is $2-300 in more features.  Incidentally, I do have a Kimber Montana in .300 WSM and am happy with it.  Not quite as accurate as my 700 TI on average, but then again, it kicks a whole bunch more.  The Kimber came with a better trigger & bedding, but these are easy fixes (certainly less than $200) for a Rem 700.

The 700 TI may be expensive, but look at your other options for 5.5lbs guns and it's not so bad.  If you can live with a 1/2-1 lb more, there are  cheaper alternatives.

-Lou

P.S. My .270 does not kick that much at all, even with full house 150 grain loads.  At least, I don't notice it.  I have heard the 06 variety is more of a handful with 180s.

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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2005, 06:16:46 PM »
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I have a 700 TI in .270. I have tried 6 or 7 different loads and all have been in the 1-1.5" range except loads with the barnes 120 gr XBT which were well over 2".


Hmmmm......... I had a Weatherby UltraLightweight in .300 WBY that was 5.75 lbs....but it shot 1/2 " @ 100yds and 2"@ 300yds. I wonder what the Titaniums would group at 300yds? :eek: I paid just a tad more than the Titanium's price tag....but in a std .270 it would have been pretty close. :roll:
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2005, 05:19:34 PM »
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I have a 700 TI in .270. I have tried 6 or 7 different loads and all have been in the 1-1.5" range except loads with the barnes 120 gr XBT which were well over 2".


Hmmmm......... I had a Weatherby UltraLightweight in .300 WBY that was 5.75 lbs....but it shot 1/2 " @ 100yds and 2"@ 300yds. I wonder what the Titaniums would group at 300yds? :eek: I paid just a tad more than the Titanium's price tag....but in a std .270 it would have been pretty close. :roll:


Not sure what your point is.  I never said the Weatherby would not shoot.   I have not tried my 700 TI at 300 yards yet, but last range trip, 5 3 shot groups averaged 1.04" w/ 140 Nos BTIP and 55 gr RL-19.  Not 1/2", but certainly not inaccurate as others suggested.  I have recently adjusted the trigger down from 6lbs to about 3.5lbs, so I expect my groups have room to improve.  Maybe when Turkey season is over I will have a chance to shoot 300 yards and report on my results.  In any case, that is mighty fine shooting for a .300 Weatherby in such a light rifle.  My Kimber Montana in .300 WSM is a brute to shoot with full house 180 loads off the bench.  The kick is not so bad, but the gun jumps like crazy.

-Lou