Author Topic: G2 vs. encore 45/70 (Read 487 times)

skeeter · « **on:** November 15, 2004, 03:03:36 AM »

I have a upcoming hunt this winter that I want to use a 45/70. I have both an encore frame and a G2 frame that I could use. I want to buy a carbine barrel. I really like the G2 better. Lighter to carry and I like the balance better. I am concerned about the recoil in such a light gun if I choose the G2. Has anyone shot both the G2 and encore in 45/70. How do they compare? I also understand that with the G2 I need to keep reloads in the trapdoor range and with the encore I could load up to Marlin levels.

Thebear_78 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 15, 2004, 05:11:55 AM »

I recently got a 45/70 barrel for my encore. I had it cut down to 18" and found it to balance extremely well. Recoil could be fairly stout with heavy loads but not unmanagable. I personally would go with the encore because of the versatility of using heavier loads. I feel the trapdoor levels limit the cartridge too much, its like having a full ton pickup truck with only a 4cyl engine in it.

throttleman · « **Reply #2 on:** November 15, 2004, 07:53:57 AM »

I have a G2 in .45-70 with a 23" barrel. I love the feel and light weight of the gun. I have shot only a bison with a factory Remington 405 grain load. It worked well. For me, I have no reason to need anything hotter than trapdoor pressure which is why I like the G2. If, on the other hand you need hot loads, go with the Encore. I think both are superb rifles. It is a trade-off...hot loads or light weight.

As for recoil, it is not bad at all. If you are recoil shy, I think hot loads through the Encore will be worse than trapdoor loads through the G2. It sounds to me like the G2 will suit you better. What are you hunting this winter?

One mistake I made was ordering Leupold base and rings for the G2. Upon mounting the scope, I found that I could not get enough eye relief. These particular mounts must have been for a G2 handgun setup. I think a weaver type mount would work better. I am curious to hear what you decide to do. Good luck.

skeeter · « **Reply #3 on:** November 15, 2004, 09:12:34 AM »

I really like the weight and balance of the G2 better. I will be using the gun to shoot a russian wild boar. I also have a 209x50 encore. I f I get the 45/70 G2 barrel then it allows me to take another frame along and have two fully functional guns. My concern is the recoil in a 6.5 lb gun if I use the G2.

throttleman · « **Reply #4 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:35:23 AM »

Skeeter,

In addition to currently having a G2 in .45-70, I also had a 209X50 Encore. I can attest that the recoil from a max charge of
black powder behind a maxi hunter or a power belt in the 209X50 is far greater that of the G2 with either a 405 or 300 grain Remington factory load. For your info, search the web for, "Recoil calculator." If you are not familiar with the recoil calculator, you will find it very informative. You can calculate recoil and other ballistics for nearly any load. Let me know what you find.

T-man

New Hampshire · « **Reply #5 on:** November 15, 2004, 12:01:40 PM »

Since your comfortable with the G2 Id go that route. To be honest you only have to worry bout one shot, right :grin: ? Just get a Sims Limbasver slip on pad for range shooting and strip it off for out in the field (or heck if you dont mind the added LOP keep it on.)
Brian M.