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« on: October 15, 2004, 12:42:21 PM »
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=EBC8FC7B-ED5D-46A5-8DA4-3C6F6C31975E

I dunno guys :eek:
  What do you guys from Texas think? Is there such a thing, or is it a mangey coyote? whatever it is, it sure looks strange. Dont look like a coyote to me.









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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2004, 04:58:43 PM »
That is intresting bullemaker.Let us know when they figer out just what the hell it is.Could be it is the lengend of the mexican blood sucker.It is ugly what ever it is. :shock:

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2004, 11:34:59 PM »
JMHO on this one but I think its a hoax. This is a mangy half starved dog of some sort that has been dead a lot longer than these people are saying. No animal (and this is an animal, not a mysterious bugger ) rots so quickly that its ear breaks of when you touch it after only a few hours. And no animal I have ever seen receives a fatal bullet wound without bleeding. Of course it didn't bleed--its been dead for days. I think someone found a dead dog that has been under the porch a while and  then shot the thing trying to get there 15 minutes of fame. Some people will do or say anything for attention.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2004, 11:53:14 PM »
It looks a lot like a mangy fox that I shot one time.  This one was all blackened from frostbite on the places without fur.  I don't know about the story though.  I felt mighty sorry for this little fella when I shot him.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2004, 06:20:39 AM »
Not a muntjac as suggested in the reference article, muntjac have hooves and short tails. Looks like a canid, probably a domestic dog, with severe skin problems and malnutrition or disease. Canine teeth and claws are a little long, but not outside the normal variation for dogs. Probably an abandoned dog with severe skin deformation.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2004, 04:12:04 AM »
Go to the article and look at its paws it just don't look right between its paws and its teeth?                                                BigBill

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2004, 05:48:20 AM »
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Go to the article and look at its paws it just don't look right between its paws and its teeth?                                                BigBill


Due to its emaciated, hairless condition, the appearance of the canine teeth and the long toes looks pretty much normal, although shockingly different from what we normally see. If you'd ever seen a hanging black bear after its been field dressed and skinned, you'd swear it was very human looking in appearance. Removal of body hair can really change the appearance of critters and even those of us that are too tall for our hair. :oops:
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2004, 05:50:34 AM »
Some kid probably fed a dog some anti-freeze which caused it to lose all its' hair.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2004, 09:52:53 PM »
Odd creature, killed in East Texas, identified

http://www.countryworldnews.com/Editorial/ETX/2004/et102804Creature.htm
 
By KARI KRAMER | East Texas Edition
 
Oct. 28, 2004 - An odd creature found in Pollack earlier this month has now been identified.

The animal was shot after running under a house in the Angelina County town of Pollack. According to the East Texas paper that originally covered the story, the couple who owned the house called their daughter, Stacy Womack, to identify the animal. Womack, who has been said to have some veterinarian experience, went to take pictures of the fatally-wounded animal.

The animal was described as having an almost blue-like skin, a noticeable overbite, poorly structured hind legs that are longer than the front legs, thick claw-like nails, and as having virtually no hair on its body. The bone structure was similar to that of a dog and several reports indicated the weight to be around 20 pounds.

This creature was believed by many in local reports to be the same type of "beast" killed earlier this year near San Antonio.

Immediate reports indicated the animal could be a coyote or even some type of mythical animal.

Several super-natural oriented websites are now featuring pictures and links to information about the creature. Local agencies have been flooded with reports of "mystery beast" sightings.

Without seeing pictures, some veterinarians assumed the animal was a coyote or dog with mange. Others who were not identified by name said the animal could be a Mexican chupacabra, an animal believed to roam rural lands eating livestock. One person, identified only as "one area hunting guide," believed the animal could be a muntjac, a deer-like animal. Unlike the animal found in Pollack, the muntjac has split-hooves and is an herbivore.

Womack was quoted in the East Texas paper as saying, "It's not a dog, I'd bet my lottery ticket on that."

According to several experts, the animal is of the Canidae family (the same as any household or wild dog).

"All wildlife experts seem to believe it's a coyote with mange," said Capt. Donnie Puckett of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD).

Puckett also indicated the earlier stories were exaggerated when they quoted that one game warden was "totally freaked out."

"We had some real interesting topics," said Cary Sims, the Texas Cooperative Extension agent of agriculture in Angelina County. "It was just blown out of proportion."

Dr. James Wright of the Texas Department State Health Services Zoonosis Control Division in Tyler explained the grotesque features of the coyote.

"The animal was suffering from poor nutrition. It did not run off those nails like a healthy animal would. I've seen dogs with nails that long," said Wright, who added that the extraordinary overbite was probably the result of a genetic malformation.

The lack of hair on the animal's body has been repeatedly accredited to mange. Wright explained that mange is a condition caused by mites. According to Wright, there are two types of mange that the coyote could possibly have had: Sarcoptic and Demodectic.

Sarcoptic mange is caused by the Sarcoptes scabei mite. The condition is most commonly known as scabies. The female mite burrows under the skin and moves about laying eggs. When the eggs hatch they move to the surface of the skin for breeding, the prescence of the mites and their eggs will cause skin irritation that will provoke the animal to scratch vigorously. This type of mite can be spread to other animals and humans, but is treatable.

Demodectic mange is caused by the Demodex canis mite. This mite is spread only from mothers to their puppies in the first stages of life. Once the animal ages, it cannot contract the demodex mites. These mites burrow deep into the hair follicle and hair will not grow, or will fall out. Severe itching will not occur from demodex mite exposure. All dogs are believed to have a level of demodex mites in their skin, but most never develop Demodectic mange. Some animals may be genetically predisposed for the condition according to Wright, or may possess an immune system deffiencey that allows the mites to flourish.

Wright believed that because the condition was so severe, the coyote most likely had Demodectic mange, because the animal's skin was not scratched away.

As it turns out, the commotion surrounding the mystery beast can now be accredited to a sickly coyote.

"The real story here is how excited people got over a coyote with mange," said Dr. Wright.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2004, 11:41:54 PM »
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Go to the article and look at its paws it just don't look right between its paws and its teeth?                                                BigBill


Due to its emaciated, hairless condition, the appearance of the canine teeth and the long toes looks pretty much normal, although shockingly different from what we normally see. If you'd ever seen a hanging black bear after its been field dressed and skinned, you'd swear it was very human looking in appearance. Removal of body hair can really change the appearance of critters and even those of us that are too tall for our hair. :oops:


Your right i remember how human a blackbear looked skinned on a table once laying there.                                              BigBill

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2004, 12:57:29 PM »
Think it could have been a distant relative of the "Mexican Hairless Dog"?  I've read they only have a small amount of hair on top of their head, and the tip of their tail.  Also, due to the decayed state, and most likely malnutrition, the hair may have fallen out during that peroid.  Any further suggestions?  Patriot

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2004, 02:17:49 PM »
It was determined to be a sickly coyote.

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As it turns out, the commotion surrounding the mystery beast can now be accredited to a sickly coyote.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2004, 01:53:57 PM »
Oddly enough, last spring I saw a critter that was almost in as bad shape as the one above.  It was a horribly mangy old fox that was terribly emaciated, walking down the road in broad daylight as I was driving home from work.

I tried to squish it with my car: a mercy killing, understand, but it evaded.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2004, 02:54:39 PM »
Gee Michbob, your all heart.  :)  :)  :)  :-D

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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2004, 05:09:20 PM »
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Others who were not identified by name said the animal could be a Mexican chupacabra, an animal believed to roam rural lands eating livestock.



Don't these people know nothin? There ain't no such thing as a Mexican Chupacabra.  The Cupacabra hails from Puerto Rico. I seen one down there too. That ain't no Chupacabra. Maybe a wombat or nauga though.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2004, 06:05:29 PM »
Can't be a nauga. Them suckers is extinct don't ya know. Used them all up making naugahide sofas.  :-D


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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2004, 09:28:25 PM »
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Can't be a nauga. Them suckers is extinct don't ya know. Used them all up making naugahide sofas.  :-D


dang, I thought it was my ex's mom

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