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« on: September 14, 2004, 07:38:47 PM »
Any one know whose making the new Mossberg rifles at Walmart?

Are they junk?

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2004, 01:57:07 AM »
I have not seen them yet. Can you describe??

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2004, 03:28:57 AM »
I'm hoping to find one in one of the local Wal-marts.  I have heard that Savage are making them, but I'm not sure.  I'd kinda hope that Mossberg at least designed the thing.  The price is definately good, and I'd likely get on .270 (I've already got a .30-06, the other chambering), but I've already got a Savage 110 and don't want the same thing with a different name stamped on it.

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2004, 06:09:00 PM »
I didn't get to check it out, as I was pressed for time.  I hope to have time take a good look at it tomorrow.  If it is a savage it should be easy to recognize.  I was kind of hoping it was a Howa but I doubt it at that price.  I think they wanted $245.00 for it.  They only had a .270.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2004, 10:55:39 AM »
I saw one today.  I don't know who makes them but they aren't on the Mossberg website, which is the first thing I checked when I got home.  From what I hear Mossberg denies making a bolt action centerfire rifle, regardless of what name is on them, but it has a Mossberg tag on it just like the shotguns.  Interesting.............

It looks like a Savage but different, a sloppy bolt and the quality is about the same as the 110, except for a molded synthetic stock, which has some kind of molded sling mounts.  It also comes with scope mounts.

I don't see anybody beating down Walmarts door to get at them.  Not if you check their racks throughout the year and buy the closeouts at deep discounts.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2004, 12:33:12 PM »
I had ( no longer with us) a relative that had a mossberg rifle twenty years ago.  It was junk.   Once fired cases from it were not reliable, and it spit gas all over the place.  He gave me five boxes of .243 cases that had been fired in it.  I tossed the cases.  The rifle had serious headspace problems.

It was a relatively new rifle.  I have not trusted the brand since.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2004, 05:58:40 PM »
Well when they sell a bolt gun for the price of a Handi you cannot expect a whole lot.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2004, 09:14:57 AM »
Because of his 80 some years he offered me the rifle.  I passed.
I felt it was a serious accident waiting to happen.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2004, 01:04:35 PM »
Quote from: SeaBass
Any one know whose making the new Mossberg rifles at Walmart?

Are they junk?


You can buy a Remington Model 700 ADL in either .270 or .30-06 at Wal Mart and they are not junk!     The stock is not the best, but it will do for an accurate, knock-around deer, bear, and elk slayer!     Replace the stock and trigger guard if you need to, but 95% of them will be very good right out of the box.    

Incidentally, the trigger will also be 3-way adjustable, per the instructions at www.centerfirecentral.com.    It has worked well for me.   Just be reasonable and careful in doing the work if you sincerely believe you can handle it.    

Why buy a 'gamble' of a new rifle when for $100 more you can get one generally known to be very accurate?    Aren't your hunts worth that much more?

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2004, 08:25:55 AM »
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Why buy a 'gamble' of a new rifle when for $100 more you can get one generally known to be very accurate?    Aren't your hunts worth that much more?


Well I just like variety myself, so any cheap/value rifle usually catches my eye, just because it's something different (I've already got guns that I trust in the field).  It's not often to find a modern sporting rifle this cheap (most of the cheap bolt actions are milsurp, and while they're interesting in their own way, they're different from a modern rifle).

That being said, I dropped by a local Wal-mart today which had apparently gotten in a new shipment of guns (the cases were full), and I did manage to find this new Mossberg in .30-06 in one of the revolving cases.  

Earlier in the thread I mentioned that I had heard it was built by Savage.  I still don't know if this is the case, but in some areas it kinda looks like a Savage 110, but there are also things different.  The safety on the Savage is an ambidextrious slide safety right in the middle of the receiver. and to the rear of the bolt.  The Mossberg has a swinging lever saftey on the right side of the receiver, a la a Remington 700 (though the swing distance on the Mossberg looks considerably shorter).  Also, the Savage's bolt sleeve apears to be non-existent, with the bolt basically ending after you get to the handle.  The Mossberg bolt does have a sleeve the protrudes about an inch behind the bolt handle.  Also, though this is just a judgement call and might be incorrect, the receiver on the Mossberg looked larger (in diameter) than many other rifles.  I'm not sure though.

As to things similar to a Savage, it does seem to use a barrel nut like the Savage, but it's completely smooth and has no griping area for a wrench to remove it.  The bolt handle is also seperate from the bolt body and looks like it attaches to the body as a collar like with the Savage.  The actual handle does look larger and more swept back than on a Savage though.

Now, as to general comments.  The finish didn't look very good.  It was very obviously some sort of spray on finish that had a somewhat coarse grain to it.  The stock is synthetic (ugh!) with the sling swivels and the trigger guard all molded into the stock (double ugh!).  Finally the crown on the barrel looked very odd.  Instead of the nice, rolling, smooth crown that I've seen on most rifles, this had a very thin wall at the end of the barrel.  It was about 1 mm thick and 4 mm deep.  After you got to the bottom of the wall there was just a flat surface that looked like an abrupt end to the bore/rifling.  

Now, I haven't actually bought one (I haven't ruled it out, though I'd definately want the .270 instead of the .30-06), but IMHO for it be be in any way decent looking you'd need to get a new stock for it, and unfortunately with this gun a new stock requires a new trigger guard.  I don't know how it shoots though.

Unfortunately I wasn't able to actually touch the gun or work the bolt, so I can't comment on the "feel" of the gun.

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2004, 10:41:08 AM »
Your comments about the crown are about the recessed crown cut into the muzzle, which is becoming a common occurance in some models of hunting rifles.   Alot of In-Line muzzleloades have the same thing.

And as far as buying a new stock for it, instead of adding another possible $100 to a cheap rifle, it might be better to go and buy an ADL or a 110, if that's what the end cost will end up being comparable to.

The molded sling mounts are a real turn off for me.  I didn't notice the molded trigger guard but that would also be a negative.

However, if somebody doesn't do alot of shooting and only goes out hunting once in a while, I don't see a problem with the Mossberg sitting in the corner of the closet for those types of people.

The only possible competition for that rifle would be an early 110, in my opinion.

My only use for this rifle would be a foul weather or a swamp gun, set up so I wouldn't mess up a more valuable piece due to inclement weather or wet terrain.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2004, 10:55:53 AM »
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And as far as buying a new stock for it, instead of adding another possible $100 to a cheap rifle, it might be better to go and buy an ADL or a 110, if that's what the end cost will end up being comparable to.


Well, I'm thinking that Boyds will eventually cut for this action, in which case a new stock should only run $50-60.  I do agree that a 110 would be a better buy, but I've already got one of those in .30-06 and prefer to try and get something different each time (for varieties sake).  Of course realistically I've been looking into a Tikka quite a bit for my next gun.  I'll probably wait until somebody does a review on the Mossberg.  If it's accurate, then I doubt I'll be able to pass one up for the price.

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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2004, 04:26:02 PM »
I've looked at the Mossberg rifles at the Wally World here, and I have mixed thoughts as to who really makes it. I know the old Mossbergs were made by Howa, as my unlce has one in .308, that is probably 35 years old. It's his only centerfire also, and has taken numerous deer. I would rather have his old beater one, than the new one, as they just have that cheap feal to them.

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