« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: .480 and .490 Roundballs?  (Read 894 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Redhawk1

  • Life time NRA Supporter.
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (78)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10748
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« on: August 18, 2004, 09:22:56 AM »
I have a box of Hornady .490 round balls that I am going to shoot out of my T/C Renegade with .015 Ox-yoke patches. I pick up another box of round balls and did not see the size was .480. Do I need to get thicker patches or will the .015 Ox-yoke patches work?  And yes I will be shooting black powder with them.  :D


Thanks
Logged
If  you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
Jesus Christ and the American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

Endowment Life Member of the NRA
Life Member NA

Offline Gregory

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1482
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2004, 12:06:09 PM »
Redhawk1

I'm shooting a .490 ball and a 0.010 oxyoke patch with good results out of my Renegade.  When you add .020 (double the patch thickness) to .490 you get .510 for the "projectile" diameter.

Do the same with the 0.015 patch and your .480 ball and you get the same .510 diameter.

Give it a try!
Logged
Greg

NRA Endowment Life Member
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Second Amendment, U.S. Constitution (1791)

Offline Redhawk1

  • Life time NRA Supporter.
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (78)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10748
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2004, 12:47:55 PM »
Quote from: Gregory
Redhawk1

I'm shooting a .490 ball and a 0.010 oxyoke patch with good results out of my Renegade.  When you add .020 (double the patch thickness) to .490 you get .510 for the "projectile" diameter.

Do the same with the 0.015 patch and your .480 ball and you get the same .510 diameter.

Give it a try!


I did not think of that, :oops:  I will give it a try.  :D
Logged
If  you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
Jesus Christ and the American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

Endowment Life Member of the NRA
Life Member NA

Offline KING

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 632
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2004, 03:45:53 PM »
:-D I have never seen .480 Rb anyplace........of course I never looked for em either.  I would think that they would shoot with the thicker patching .  Let us know how you come out with them Redhawk................stay safe........King
Logged
THE ONLY FEMALE THAT I TRUST IS A LABRADOR.......AND SHE DONT SNOORE,AND DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT MY COOKING...THE ONLY GODS THAT EXIST ARE THOSE THAT HAVE ONE IN THE CHAMBER,AND 19 IN THE MAG.......

Offline Redhawk1

  • Life time NRA Supporter.
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (78)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10748
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2004, 04:07:22 PM »
King, here you go. I got them from midwayUSA. Scroll about 1/4 of the way down.

http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteabrowse/2/7933/9315***652***675***
Logged
If  you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
Jesus Christ and the American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

Endowment Life Member of the NRA
Life Member NA

Offline Snowshoe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 394
    • http://www.playfarmers.com
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2004, 01:01:17 AM »
I think Hornady made them to go with their plastic sabot. I have seen them for sale with the plastic cup/sabot, and they call the .480 a hard ball. It is not pure lead, and is designed to penetrate better, so they say.
Logged
Snowshoe

Offline Redhawk1

  • Life time NRA Supporter.
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (78)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10748
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 01:11:02 AM »
Quote from: Snowshoe
I think Hornady made them to go with their plastic sabot. I have seen them for sale with the plastic cup/sabot, and they call the .480 a hard ball. It is not pure lead, and is designed to penetrate better, so they say.


I seen the ones you are talking about, but they are .485. They are listed separate from the .480. I don't think they are the same thing. :?

Hornady Muzzleloading Bullets 50 Caliber (485 Diameter) Hard Ball with Plastic Patch Box of 20.

I would just sent them back but it is not worth the aggravation.  :D
I will just use my .490 for deer and the .480 for plinken. :grin:
Logged
If  you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
Jesus Christ and the American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

Endowment Life Member of the NRA
Life Member NA

Offline roundball

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 375
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2004, 02:02:20 AM »
Redhawk, if they sent them to you in error, you don't have to pay return shipping...just notify them they screwed up the order and to send you a prepaid return shipping label, a UPS pick up 'call tag', etc...done that several time over the years.

Odds are they won't even bother paying the return shipping, they'll probably just tell you to keep them, and they'll also send you the correct box of .490's
Logged
"Flintlocks.......The Real Deal"
(Claims that 1:48" twists won't shoot PRBs accurately are old wives tales!!)

Offline Redhawk1

  • Life time NRA Supporter.
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (78)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10748
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2004, 03:52:08 AM »
roundball, it was my mistake. I ordered the wrong number.
Now if the .480 roundball is .480 and I put a .015 patch around it. wouldn't it be .510? I see the ball as .480 and if the patch is .015, it would be .015 on both sides of the roundball and make the diameter .510. Is my thinking off?

Because people using .490 roundballs use .010 patches and the diameter would equal .510.
Logged
If  you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
Jesus Christ and the American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

Endowment Life Member of the NRA
Life Member NA

Offline flintlock

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1405
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2004, 04:27:52 AM »
Redhawk...using a thicker patch, may or may not work....You'll have to shoot it to see...its just not as simple as both adding up to .510....
I went through this same problem in the '80s...when I built my .54...
I had .530 and .520 caliber balls...I tried .010....015....020 and two .010
patches with the .520 balls....nothing worked...or I should say none of these combinations grouped as well as a .530 ball and .015 patch....but I did learn quite a bit...two .010 patches load tighter than one .020...and with higher powder charges, they don't burnout as quick as a .020...also wasp/hornet nests between powder and ball/patch does do a good job of protecting the patch...Once I found the right combination with .530 balls...I ordered a mould from Rapine....and converted the .520s to .530s...flintlock
Logged

Offline Redhawk1

  • Life time NRA Supporter.
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (78)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10748
  • Gender: Male
.480 and .490 Roundballs?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2004, 05:19:39 AM »
I think your right, I will just have to try them out. Gives me a reason to shoot more.  :D  Nothing wrong with that.
Logged
If  you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
Jesus Christ and the American G. I.
One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

Endowment Life Member of the NRA
Life Member NA
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »