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Offline RamJohn

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Estimating wind at long ranges
« on: July 30, 2004, 12:57:50 PM »
I was looking for post with tips on estimating wind at long ranges. You know, just to increase my shooting knowledge. I've never really given much thought to crosswind before, cause I never needed to, mainly cause I haven't done much long range shooting, but that's going to change, and I need some pointers.
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Estimating wind at long ranges
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2004, 02:12:32 PM »
IMO you need two things to get started, a wind gauge and a few feet of surveyors streamer tape.

Hang the streamer tape near the gauge and observe how much wind it takes to lift the tape to (approx) 20deg - 30deg - 45deg. It is also helpful to see how the wind effects the vegetation in the area.

It will take awhile but eventually you will be able to judge the wind speed by the angle of the streamer tape and the wind effect on the vegetation.

If it is at all possible, put a streamer down near the anticipated shot location. If not, watch the grass, leaves or whatever else is around to help you judge the wind.

Judging wind over long range is difficult because even if you have accurately determined the wind speed and angle from your position, it could be quite different down by the target or anywhere in between.  The wind often blows in gusts and abates in between, or it may switch directions entirely, going in one direction at the target and another where you are standing. You must take these variables into account if they are present.

Naturally, you will need to know how the wind effects your particular bullet and at the muzzle velocity it is going from your rifle. A ballistic chart or loading manual will usually provide you with this info.

It is also VERY helpful if you shoot a high BC bullet. This will reduce overall wind deflection and minimize your errors.

Hope this gets you started. Figuring out the wind over a long distance is much harder than determining bullet drop over the same distance. Bullet drop is basically a known factor.

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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2004, 06:43:34 PM »
I learned how to read heat waves. This technique is difficult to master but does work extremely well. Use a 40-60X spotting scope and look down range. You can see heat waves lifting from the ground. This will look like optical distortion. The heat waves will bend in the direction of the wind. The more they bend, the higher the wind. You can take several "readings" and see exactly what Varmint Hunter said about variance in direction and speed at different distances. Note the different directions and estimated speed then do a little math. When you get where you can read the heat waves, you'll be surprised how accurate your first shot will be. I take a laser range finder and ballistic charts with me. The charts are set up with Oehler's Ballistic Explorer. I print a wind drift chart with the speed set at 10 mph and the direction at 3 o'clock. I also print a bullet path chart. Both are tailored for the velocity, weight, diameter, and ballistic coefficient of the bullet I'm shooting.  The thrill of it is to take out a prairie dog at some ridicules distance with the first shot.
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Estimating wind at long ranges
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2004, 09:08:44 PM »
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I could go into detail about every little thing and still not teach you anything,long range shooting is something you just have to learn to do, If I was interested in learning to be a good long range shooter I would buy this book.....but firstly learn to shoot a 22lr out to 150-200 yards if you can accomplish this it will be a big step to being a good long range shooter one of these days...Good Luck...

What rifle/scope and caliber have you chosen??? The single most important thing is to be comfortable with your rifle, that is more important than wind or range or velocity.

You will also need a good spotting scope and/or binoculars but I am sure you have that covered....if you can afford it I would buy a VERY GOOD range finder, one that will range a non-reflective target out to GREAT distances...them targets that are black and outline your shots green are handy too...a harris bipod is well worth the money spent. Also go to the optometrist and make sure you don't need glasses or a stronger prescription of glasses if you currently wear glasses...again I wish you the best of luck and do believe there is great pleasure to be found in long range shooting and hunting....Just be sure of your shot and what is beyond it...also "squeeze" the trigger "AS SOON AS" you aquire target and use the proper breathing technique...
"To me the rifle has always been the most romantic of all weapons, and of all rifles, the one I love the most is the rifle for big game." Jack O'Connor