ihuntbucks,
You lost me on that one. I was talking about the CCI shot loads for revolvers. I carry a S&W .45 LC Mountain Gun loaded with my own handloaded shotshells for snakes. CCI just recently started loading 45 LC shotshells, but I like mine better. They are also available in 38, 44, 45 ACP,and 9mm. Very effective on snakes out to about 20 - 25 feet. If they're further away than that, I just go around 'em.