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Canada, UK, Australia, Portugal, and now France..
« on: September 22, 2025, 11:55:27 AM »
..Have all decided to recognize the Palestinian state, and give them their own land.. 

  https://apnews.com/article/un-israel-palestinians-france-saudi-recognition-two-states-88f3a87f7d79df02311f09b3e45560e9

  Since I don't see where those Euro countries have any right to take any land from Israel, I wonder where they will place all those Palestinians..

  Maybe northern France, around Calais, or perhaps southern France in the neighborhood of  Toulouse or Marseille..

  Or maybe Canada could give them Quebec !  If that doesn't work..they could park around Sydney, Australia..or maybe Portugal could put them up in their Pyrenees Mts.

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2025, 01:02:42 PM »
Israel will take care of itself. I'm more concerned that they vote against the Un-United States at the UN.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2025, 02:22:39 AM »
Israel will take care of itself. I'm more concerned that they vote against the Un-United States at the UN.

  The globalists have a firm grip on the present political leaders of western Europe, and if the current uprising there will bring political change..remains to be seen.

  In almost any case, I see turbulent times for western Europe...and the world.  Globalists have so infected Europe, that she is in free fall.

  The people are suddenly starting to catch on that they have been sold a batch of bad goods by their "leaders". Partly their own fault, having turned away from God and all they once cherished.

  It has been said by many right here on GBO, that the USA is the world's last hope for freedom to survive, and now many Euros can see that !

   ...Some quite reluctantly...

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PatY4sIPBEg

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2025, 09:52:50 AM »
It ain't like Europe hasn't twisted off before.
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Re: Canada, UK, Australia, Portugal, and now France..
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2025, 10:09:13 AM »
I totally agree with all these countries that think the Palestinian folks should have a home country. I think Egypt, Jordan or even Saudi Arabia would be excellent places to put it. Or maybe Iraq or Iran even.


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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2025, 10:14:54 AM »
Well these so-called Palestinians are mostly of Egyptian, and Jordanian decent, so that would make more sense.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2025, 02:43:12 AM »
We have more than enough Globalists here to worry about! I would suspect Washington DC is prob.75% Globalists.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2025, 03:12:59 AM »
We have more than enough Globalists here to worry about! I would suspect Washington DC is prob.75% Globalists.

I wouldn't doubt that you estimate might be low.
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Re: Canada, UK, Australia, Portugal, and now France..
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2025, 06:14:39 AM »
We have more than enough Globalists here to worry about! I would suspect Washington DC is prob.75% Globalists.

  When you see how they vote, you know who's pulling the strings. Still giving away billions in foreign aid, but can't decide if they can find the money to keep the government operating. Sad part, 50% or more in our government could be shut down, and not many people in this country would even notice.
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Re: Canada, UK, Australia, Portugal, and now France..
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2025, 09:47:41 AM »
“These so-called Palestinians are mostly of Egyptian, and Jordanian decent,”
Not true. You should do a bit more research about the ethnic, genetic
 and cultural origins of those groups”

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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2025, 01:39:31 PM »
“These so-called Palestinians are mostly of Egyptian, and Jordanian decent,”
Not true. You should do a bit more research about the ethnic, genetic
 and cultural origins of those groups”

I have, and they historically are a bunch of trouble making misfits of the region that nobody wants.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2025, 08:02:52 PM »
“ they historically are a bunch of trouble making misfits of the region.”
Well yeah…can’t disagree with that. They were sold out by their own people when the British left the area after the land was given to form the present state of Israel.

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2025, 11:27:21 PM »
Israel was there long before the trouble makers that named themselves Palestinians.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2025, 02:13:01 AM »
Israel was there long before the trouble makers that named themselves Palestinians.

That is what people supporting the Palestinians can't seem to understand.

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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2025, 02:20:12 AM »
Israel was there long before the trouble makers that named themselves Palestinians.

That is what people supporting the Palestinians can't seem to understand.

   Frankly; I believe both they and their screaming stooge supporters around the world understand it, but they are overcome by devil inspired hatred for Jews..

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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2025, 03:35:00 AM »
 Little history check. That part of the middle east was under Ottoman control, for 400 years, 1500 to 1917. They called it Palestine, and it was divided up into 3 sectors, and everybody got along. Sure went down the tubes in the last 70+ years.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2025, 04:25:41 AM »
Little history check. That part of the middle east was under Ottoman control, for 400 years, 1500 to 1917. They called it Palestine, and it was divided up into 3 sectors, and everybody got along. Sure went down the tubes in the last 70+ years.

  More info; The Ottoman Empire was founded from the ME mayhem about 1300 AD..it lasted until 1922.  They held it until they screwed up and backed the losing side during WW1.  Loser don't get to be choosers...  The fact that they held  that geographical area for over 600 years doesn't give them permanency of ownership.

   Such is the way of the world. Britain took over the old Ottoman Empire (remember Lawrence of Arabia?)  Thus, the UK held hegemony over that real estate, and decided to turn over the old, bible descriptor of Israel...to the Israelis..

  That map included all of today's Israel , plus what was called Transjordan (Jordan).  However, the Hashemites whined so loud, that today's Jordan was handed to them.

   You could say that "all was at peace" before 1922, but all non Muslims in that empire were subject to dhimmitude..an Islamic form of servitude an suppressed religious and other freedoms.

    Arabs living peacefully in Israel today, do not live under such restrictions or loss of freedoms as was dhimmitude..

   A map of the Ottoman Empire;
 
     

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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2025, 06:05:32 AM »
Put simply. The jews have been in Israel 4,000+ years. I believe God gave it to them 3,000+ years ago officially.
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Re: Canada, UK, Australia, Portugal, and now France..
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2025, 06:44:33 AM »
Giving the Palestinians land anywhere won't solve the problem.
1. They want it ALL
2. They want the Jews wiped out.
3. Even if they get 1 and 2, they will come after the rest of the world. 

Unfortunately, the only way to solve the problem would be to wipe THEM out.  Why do you think God told Joshua to do that very thing?  Had he completed that job, we wouldn't have the problem today.

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2025, 10:47:25 AM »
Very good.
Recommended reading Tom Segev’s “One Palestine Complete”. It is an examination of what happened after the British mandate.

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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2025, 03:30:36 PM »
Very good.
Recommended reading Tom Segev’s “One Palestine Complete”. It is an examination of what happened after the British mandate.

   After the mandate...Jews were given the entire ancient Israel land allotment. Then the Hashemite tribe (Now King Abdullah) squalled so voiciferously, that te League of nations pressured the UK into handing over Transjordan to them.

  All this, notwithstanding the Jewish presence of 3500 years.

 

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Palestinian State Rejected Once, Why Do Some Think Otherwise?
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2025, 12:23:27 PM »
https://www.newsmax.com/marklcohen/partition-resolution/2025/09/26/id/1228043/

A Palestinian State Has Already Been Offered, Rejected — Yet Europe, Canada, and Australia Pretend It's New?

In recent weeks, a hysterical parade of world leaders — France and Britain at the front of the pack, joined by Canada and Australia — have rushed to recognize a Palestinian state.

Their motivation is not the search for peace but the search for relevance, and they seem to believe that recognition costs nothing. In fact, recognition was given long ago.

What has been missing, time and again, is the will to turn principle into reality.

The 1947 United Nations Partition Plan (Resolution 181) explicitly provided for two states: one Jewish, one Arab. Notably, there was no reference to a "Palestinian" state.

At that time, the concept of a Palestinian national identity was not part of the Arab political imagination. The Arabs of the territory largely identified with the broader Arab nation, and the land itself was often described as "Southern Syria" under the Ottoman Empire.

It was only in the early 1970s, under Yasser Arafat, that the term "Palestinian" came into widespread use to designate the Arabs living in the western part of that Ottoman province.

Yet even in 1947, the principle of dual statehood was established clearly and unambiguously.

Whenever the moment came to make that principle real — by accepting a state for themselves alongside a Jewish state — Palestinian leaders refused.

At Khartoum in 1967, the Arab League adopted its infamous "Three No's": no negotiation, no peace, no recognition.

The preference remained absolute: if recognition of a Palestinian state required recognition of a Jewish state, then better to have nothing.

Israel, however, returned repeatedly to the principle.

At Camp David in 2000, then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered statehood.

In 2008, then-Prime Minister Ehud Olmert made another far-reaching offer.

In both cases, with a sitting U.S. president serving as a witness, Palestinian representatives declined.

Refusal was elevated to strategy.

There is, however, one moment when principle was given a framework for reality: the diplomatic process opened at the Madrid Conference of 1991, carried forward by the Oslo Accords of 1993.

Those accords, signed on the White House lawn and recognized internationally, established the unconditional rule that Palestinian statehood could not come from rhetorical declarations abroad but only through direct agreement between Israel and the Palestinians themselves.

Crucially, Madrid and Oslo did not remain private understandings.

They were welcomed by the United Nations, endorsed by the United States, and embraced by Europe. France and its partners invested diplomatic capital and billions of euros in aid to support their implementation.

In this way, Oslo acquired the weight of international law: it became the accepted legal framework by which Palestinian statehood could emerge — not because outside leaders proclaimed it, but because both Israel and the Palestinians had themselves agreed, and the world ratified that agreement.

That is why today's declarations ring hollow. Recognition of something that the Palestinians themselves have consistently refused to bring into existence cannot produce reality.

Instead, it turns the peoples of the Mideast into props in the theater of international diplomacy. It gives European, Canadian, and Australian leaders the illusion that they are shaping history, when in fact they are only generating expectations untethered to the ground.

And even more importantly, in each of these countries there has been, and continues to be, strong media criticism of what their leaders are doing.

The charge is clear: they are exploiting an international crisis over which they have little real influence in order to distract from their own domestic political failings.

In France, President Macron’s maneuver has even emboldened left-wing mayors to allow the Palestinian flag to replace the French tricolor at demonstrations that have nothing to do with foreign affairs.

France has long yearned for a role in Mideast diplomacy.

Yet its history is one of irrelevance, in part because it often refused to align itself with the United States when balanced resolutions were on the table — resolutions that condemned not only Israeli actions but also Arab terrorism and violations of international law.

Left sidelined, France compensates by playing to the gallery at the United Nations.

The danger is not only futility but also distortion.

President Macron, in announcing France's recognition of Palestine, went so far as to suggest he was preparing an international coalition to disarm Hamas.

Such a statement would be risible if it were not so irresponsible.

Here is a country still hesitating on how firmly to oppose Russia's aggression in Ukraine — and already facing new threats in the Baltics — suddenly declaring that it will raise and lead a military force in Gaza, one that would supposedly outperform the Israeli Defense Forces themselves.

It mocks the sacrifices of Israelis who send their own sons and daughters into combat, at high cost, to pursue this very objective.

Recognition without reality is not progress. It's theater.

The longer this theater continues, the more it feeds illusions, prevents accountability, and delays the hard choices which alone can bring peace.

The principle of two states was established in 1947, given a framework at Madrid and Oslo, and remains on the table today. The refusal to accept it cannot be erased by rhetorical flourishes in Paris, Ottawa, Canberra, or London.


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