very few blacks up here

[Lloyd Smale]

let's take the tax exemption away from organizations like Catholic Charities. Feeding, housing,  and transporting illegal aliens isn't in Americas best interest. 

sign me up!!

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

I think it's about racial prejudice, but the truth of the matter, there is tons of governmental taxpayer waste handed out to organizations that neither need it, nor deserve it.
The American Indian was FORCED ONTO RESERVATIONS by the Un-United States Government.

racial predudice?? kind of the pot calling the kettle black! some who doesnt like blacks, detests Mexicana's! heck doesnt like anyone north of some mystical line. heck for the most part anyone not texan. truth be told im one of the least predudiced guys on here. i just tell it like it is and it ruffles a few feathers. this wasnt aimed at you! ive known you long enough to know your not afraid to work, are even willing to risk yourself for others and i seriously doubt you live on a rez or stand in line for their welfare food! they may have been forced onto rezervations 200 years ago but last i saw theres no gates or security keeping them in and some have even escaped to become leaders of this country. why defend those who milk the handouts!! im predudice in that i detest ANYONE who sits back and eats of my dime thats more than capable of earning their own. dont much care what their race. just boggles my mind everyone here gets pissed over any other group doing it including even whites but some want to defend the indians. now THAT is racist

[ironglowz]

so your basicaly saying if the left makes a policy that is socialism plain and simple we should follow it forever and not dare try to change it??? welfare and Medicaid were deals or policys made too and i dont know a single guy here that supports them or would have them eliminated or drastically changed. these deals were made to compensate the natives that lost their lands. show me one today thats lost his land!! like i said its absolutely the same as slave reparation! if some future liberal president passed a reparation bill do you think it would be fair to tax payers or should be honored for a 100 years? i just dont get the hands off with the indians. yup they were treated badly and even killed but they also committed heinous acts and their own manicures against innocent white settlers. american blacks asians and even muslims havent done that!! to me it would be like paying reparation to the east germans or north koreans for killing their great grandpas. end this socialism, close the reservations, sell those homes tax the casinos and the many other tax free business they have their hands in just like any other white owned business and let them get jobs and support their familys the same way we had to. i would think if theyre REALLY the proud people they claim to be they wouldnt want or take handouts! they wouldnt want their children raised on a rez just to become drunks or druggies!! they would want to set an example by showing them work ethic and proper values. theyd want to show the world how great they really are.   

  While I am very hesitant to paint any racial or ethnic group with a broad brush of distain...there are many anomalies present in today's culture.

  I have 3 reservations in my county.. all of the Seneca tribe of the Iroquois confederacy.  They have a proud past, being the "keepers of the western door", which was their assignment within the Iroquois nations.

  Just as the Comanche have been considered some of the world's best light cavalry,  bar none..the Senecas have been held by many historians as the best hand-to-hand woodland warriors..of all the tribes.

  Today my heart breaks, as I drive through the reservations, and I see, it seems.. marijuana "dispensaries", selling their wares at nearly every other house.

  ...And of course, they also deal in liquors ans gambling casinos..  Perhaps it is just me, but I hate to see a once proud "warrior nation" reduced to these options.

   Other observations;

  At the discount gas stations and other businesses on the res, such as Burger King, Dollar general or other businesses, it seems few natives are employed.  Most of the
  employees are off res whites.

   I assume because they get paid plenty..from casino receipts and government checks etc.

  I know that many whites work the casino, but I don't stop by there, so I am not able to guess a percentage.

   Consider too, not all native Americans by birth, live on the reservation..many choose to live among the general population, and make their way..just as anyone else.

    Personally, I think it would have been better for all sides, if the tribes were absorbed into the general population of the U.S., and given much time and resources to assimilate. 
 
   However, a deal was struck and signed.  I stick to any pledge i make, and expect my country to do the same . The only exception being, if both sides agree.

   Nope ! Not talking about welfare or medicaid..those are a different situation...which I didn't address.

  One request please...  When you are discussing an issue with another, never use the term, "so basically you're saying"  or.. "in other words you are  saying" !

  That simply means you are trying to change what was actually said.  Let each man's words speak for themselves, just as delivered..

[Dee]

 

The point, which you continually miss, IS: You didn't start the thread with what you're saying now. You started ranting about American Indians.
And your very first claim in your first post, is total BS.
Now you've switched back and fourth between blacks and American Indians, and generally people that won't work.
The general consensus I get from working folks. whether black, American Indian, or white, is that  everybody should work.
And the fact is there are millions more white drunks in the USA than American Indian drunks, and millions more drug addicted whites than American Indian drug addicts.
Also, there are likely millions more white people on welfare, and every other government program than their are American Indians on these programs, for the simple reason that there are millions more white people in the USA, than there are American Indians.

There are lots of TAXPAYER HANDOUTS going to SEVERAL OF YOUR FAVORITE ORGANIZATIONS. Do you think those should be doneaway with,  and their 401C3 tax exemption pulled?

[Dee]

let's take the tax exemption away from organizations like Catholic Charities. Feeding, housing,  and transporting illegal aliens isn't in Americas best interest. 

sign me up!!

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

I think it's about racial prejudice, but the truth of the matter, there is tons of governmental taxpayer waste handed out to organizations that neither need it, nor deserve it.
The American Indian was FORCED ONTO RESERVATIONS by the Un-United States Government.

racial predudice?? kind of the pot calling the kettle black! some who doesnt like blacks, detests Mexicana's! heck doesnt like anyone north of some mystical line. heck for the most part anyone not texan. truth be told im one of the least predudiced guys on here. i just tell it like it is and it ruffles a few feathers. this wasnt aimed at you! ive known you long enough to know your not afraid to work, are even willing to risk yourself for others and i seriously doubt you live on a rez or stand in line for their welfare food! they may have been forced onto rezervations 200 years ago but last i saw theres no gates or security keeping them in and some have even escaped to become leaders of this country. why defend those who milk the handouts!! im predudice in that i detest ANYONE who sits back and eats of my dime thats more than capable of earning their own. dont much care what their race. just boggles my mind everyone here gets pissed over any other group doing it including even whites but some want to defend the indians. now THAT is racist

My daughter is married to a guy from Chicago, and a cousin to a Mexican. I have  a granddaughter married to a bi-racial young man. He is a mans man, a gentleman to all, a great father to his children,  and a great husband to my granddaughter. He is also a SSGT in the Airforce supervising a fighter jet maintenance crew.All three great people.
My attitude which you have grossly misconstrued, is not about race, ethnicity, or regional birth. It's about attitude, courtesy, and respect towards others.

[Lloyd Smale]

i dont think any organization that makes money should be tax exempt but none of them are giving me free houses and food or kick backs from casino's that pay no taxes. THAT is socialism. like you said those stats are ridiculous!! there is a single didgit percentage of Indians per capita and the numbers are swayed even more by the fact so mant of them are on indian welfare not state.

The point, which you continually miss, IS: You didn't start the thread with what you're saying now. You started ranting about American Indians.
And your very first claim in your first post, is total BS.
Now you've switched back and fourth between blacks and American Indians, and generally people that won't work.
The general consensus I get from working folks. whether black, American Indian, or white, is that  everybody should work.
And the fact is there are millions more white drunks in the USA than American Indian drunks, and millions more drug addicted whites than American Indian drug addicts.
Also, there are likely millions more white people on welfare, and every other government program than their are American Indians on these programs, for the simple reason that there are millions more white people in the USA, than there are American Indians.

There are lots of TAXPAYER HANDOUTS going to SEVERAL OF YOUR FAVORITE ORGANIZATIONS. Do you think those should be doneaway with,  and their 401C3 tax exemption pulled?

[Lloyd Smale]

let's take the tax exemption away from organizations like Catholic Charities. Feeding, housing,  and transporting illegal aliens isn't in Americas best interest. 

sign me up!!

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

I think it's about racial prejudice, but the truth of the matter, there is tons of governmental taxpayer waste handed out to organizations that neither need it, nor deserve it.
The American Indian was FORCED ONTO RESERVATIONS by the Un-United States Government.

racial predudice?? kind of the pot calling the kettle black! some who doesnt like blacks, detests Mexicana's! heck doesnt like anyone north of some mystical line. heck for the most part anyone not texan. truth be told im one of the least predudiced guys on here. i just tell it like it is and it ruffles a few feathers. this wasnt aimed at you! ive known you long enough to know your not afraid to work, are even willing to risk yourself for others and i seriously doubt you live on a rez or stand in line for their welfare food! they may have been forced onto rezervations 200 years ago but last i saw theres no gates or security keeping them in and some have even escaped to become leaders of this country. why defend those who milk the handouts!! im predudice in that i detest ANYONE who sits back and eats of my dime thats more than capable of earning their own. dont much care what their race. just boggles my mind everyone here gets pissed over any other group doing it including even whites but some want to defend the indians. now THAT is racist

My daughter is married to a guy from Chicago, and a cousin to a Mexican. I have  a granddaughter married to a bi-racial young man. He is a mans man, a gentleman to all, a great father to his children,  and a great husband to my granddaughter. He is also a SSGT in the Airforce supervising a fighter jet maintenance crew.All three great people.
My attitude which you have grossly misconstrued, is not about race, ethnicity, or regional birth. It's about attitude, courtesy, and respect towards others.

my appology but it seems in the past you sure didnt want more in tx

[Lloyd Smale]

so your basicaly saying if the left makes a policy that is socialism plain and simple we should follow it forever and not dare try to change it??? welfare and Medicaid were deals or policys made too and i dont know a single guy here that supports them or would have them eliminated or drastically changed. these deals were made to compensate the natives that lost their lands. show me one today thats lost his land!! like i said its absolutely the same as slave reparation! if some future liberal president passed a reparation bill do you think it would be fair to tax payers or should be honored for a 100 years? i just dont get the hands off with the indians. yup they were treated badly and even killed but they also committed heinous acts and their own manicures against innocent white settlers. american blacks asians and even muslims havent done that!! to me it would be like paying reparation to the east germans or north koreans for killing their great grandpas. end this socialism, close the reservations, sell those homes tax the casinos and the many other tax free business they have their hands in just like any other white owned business and let them get jobs and support their familys the same way we had to. i would think if theyre REALLY the proud people they claim to be they wouldnt want or take handouts! they wouldnt want their children raised on a rez just to become drunks or druggies!! they would want to set an example by showing them work ethic and proper values. theyd want to show the world how great they really are.   

  While I am very hesitant to paint any racial or ethnic group with a broad brush of distain...there are many anomalies present in today's culture.

  I have 3 reservations in my county.. all of the Seneca tribe of the Iroquois confederacy.  They have a proud past, being the "keepers of the western door", which was their assignment within the Iroquois nations.

  Just as the Comanche have been considered some of the world's best light cavalry,  bar none..the Senecas have been held by many historians as the best hand-to-hand woodland warriors..of all the tribes.

  Today my heart breaks, as I drive through the reservations, and I see, it seems.. marijuana "dispensaries", selling their wares at nearly every other house.

  ...And of course, they also deal in liquors ans gambling casinos..  Perhaps it is just me, but I hate to see a once proud "warrior nation" reduced to these options.

   Other observations;

  At the discount gas stations and other businesses on the res, such as Burger King, Dollar general or other businesses, it seems few natives are employed.  Most of the
  employees are off res whites.

   I assume because they get paid plenty..from casino receipts and government checks etc.

  I know that many whites work the casino, but I don't stop by there, so I am not able to guess a percentage.

   Consider too, not all native Americans by birth, live on the reservation..many choose to live among the general population, and make their way..just as anyone else.

    Personally, I think it would have been better for all sides, if the tribes were absorbed into the general population of the U.S., and given much time and resources to assimilate. 
 
   However, a deal was struck and signed.  I stick to any pledge i make, and expect my country to do the same . The only exception being, if both sides agree.

   Nope ! Not talking about welfare or medicaid..those are a different situation...which I didn't address.

  One request please...  When you are discussing an issue with another, never use the term, "so basically you're saying"  or.. "in other words you are  saying" !

  That simply means you are trying to change what was actually said.  Let each man's words speak for themselves, just as delivered..

they are NOT different. Both are socialist based programs that hand out my tax money!! i also dont need an english lesson from anyone here. grammar police never flew here and we dont need to start now!! you explain to me what the difference is between giving natives reparation and blacks. you explain why welfare is hated here and bashed but giving my money support indians is acceptable. its the same dammed thing and its socialism plain and simple. something everyone here hates or pretends to! only argument ive seen is some tready was made 200 years ago that is the only treaty or law that just cant be changed because its as outdated as the matchlock rifle!! tell me why i should support indians or blacks for something that happened 200 years ago. i asked before. new york was once indian land. you giving yours back? you been to the rez to apologize?? im out of this one. never thought anyone here would try to defend socialism or a group that wants to stop oil drilling and are huge proponents of global warming bs. it would be laughable if it werent so sad.

[Dee]

let's take the tax exemption away from organizations like Catholic Charities. Feeding, housing,  and transporting illegal aliens isn't in Americas best interest. 

sign me up!!

Everyone knows why this thread was started…

I think it's about racial prejudice, but the truth of the matter, there is tons of governmental taxpayer waste handed out to organizations that neither need it, nor deserve it.
The American Indian was FORCED ONTO RESERVATIONS by the Un-United States Government.

racial predudice?? kind of the pot calling the kettle black! some who doesnt like blacks, detests Mexicana's! heck doesnt like anyone north of some mystical line. heck for the most part anyone not texan. truth be told im one of the least predudiced guys on here. i just tell it like it is and it ruffles a few feathers. this wasnt aimed at you! ive known you long enough to know your not afraid to work, are even willing to risk yourself for others and i seriously doubt you live on a rez or stand in line for their welfare food! they may have been forced onto rezervations 200 years ago but last i saw theres no gates or security keeping them in and some have even escaped to become leaders of this country. why defend those who milk the handouts!! im predudice in that i detest ANYONE who sits back and eats of my dime thats more than capable of earning their own. dont much care what their race. just boggles my mind everyone here gets pissed over any other group doing it including even whites but some want to defend the indians. now THAT is racist

My daughter is married to a guy from Chicago, and a cousin to a Mexican. I have  a granddaughter married to a bi-racial young man. He is a mans man, a gentleman to all, a great father to his children,  and a great husband to my granddaughter. He is also a SSGT in the Airforce supervising a fighter jet maintenance crew.All three great people.
My attitude which you have grossly misconstrued, is not about race, ethnicity, or regional birth. It's about attitude, courtesy, and respect towards others.

my appology but it seems in the past you sure didnt want more in tx

I still don't, but it has nothing to do with race, ethnicity, or regional birth.