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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2023, 03:25:43 PM »
...and this from Jesse Watters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT23L1R07z4
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2023, 08:13:10 AM »
The more I hear about this derailment the more I believe evil intent was, and is involved.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/cdc-updates-profile-vinyl-chloride-before-ohio-train-derailment
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2023, 09:39:43 AM »
I just cannot believe that no one saw this train sparking and on fire for over 20 miles...

Worse than that was the setting fire to these chemicals.

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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2023, 10:20:02 AM »
  My son is a photographer, but has been trained for Hazmat, and used to haul vinyl chloride among other things.
  As soon as he heard it announced that they were going to burn the vinyl chloride..
  he shouted, "are they completely nuts? 
 ...When you burn vinyl chloride, you get phosgene as an end product. They also already knew that Phosgene is heavier than air, and finds it's way to low lying areas.

  Here's phosgene: 
   
       https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/phosgene/basics/facts.asp#:~:text=Phosgene%20was%20used%20extensively%20during,other%20chemicals%20such%20as%20pesticide

   Note:  Second paragraph..Phosgene was highest death producer of poison gasses used Germans during WW1

   Also:
 

"Abstract
In 1944 and 1945 scientists and physicians in the Allied military intelligence gathered evidence on the criminal human experiments with chemical weapons conducted on inmates of the Nazi concentration camps in Sachsenhausen, Natzweiler, and Neuengamme during World War II. Some of the experiments were judged during the Nuremberg Medical Trial (Case )"
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« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2023, 11:04:26 AM »
Meanwhile, Pete Buttegeig.. secretary of transportation... is only worrying out how many white guys are weraring
    hard hats.

 
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2023, 04:10:05 PM »
Meanwhile, Pete Buttegeig.. secretary of transportation... is only worrying out how many white guys are weraring
    hard hats.

That,  and how he is going to save Alan Shaw's hide who is president, chairman, and CEO of Norfolk Southern
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2023, 10:38:47 AM »
Just read where next Wednesday, President Trump is going to E. Palestine to survey the situation. Now, all of a sudden, Biden, FEMA, and federal EPA are all sounding like a bunch of old motor boats. But-but-but-but, and are changing their tune. Trump put a boot in their a** and their finally starting to do something. Should have been there 2 weeks ago.
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2023, 11:18:44 AM »
Newsmax interviewed some folks in E. Palestine area this morning.

   A couple guys when asked, said it is too late now for the feds now. They said all they have been offered all this time is
    is EXCUSES.  The real beauty was EPA telling them that the EPA was for cleaning up after a hurricane, flood or
   tornado, but not for such a thing as this.

  The guys said folks can see right through this charade. Biden, Harris and Buttigeig ignored E. Palestine for over
   2 weeks...then when Pres Trump says he's going there.....suddenly they dug up some awareness somewhere.
   
  THat simply means Biden & Co. thinks people are dumb enough to swallow their line of crap. An insult !
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2023, 11:29:47 AM »
No antidote for phosgene....atropine doesn't work on chlorinated hydrocarbons. Only time and prayers.

These people in the toxic zone probably should have their present health situation medically verified now, so when it comes to class action legal suits they are not accused of having pre-existing conditions. Likely their DNA is rapidly being damaged. And they should stay away from all so-called vaccines.
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So then. What is the “toxic zone” asking for a friend :)

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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2023, 11:41:17 AM »
Phosgene was the gas Saddam Hussein used to gas the Kurdish people... the WMD the allies were searching for.
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2023, 01:22:49 PM »
On Thursday the 16th the wind came from the east with rain and there was more rain and snow Friday the 17th. Wondering how this effects the Ohio watershed and well water. I. E. Is the aquifer connected and if so, what area?

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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2023, 05:16:16 PM »
With this getting into the Ohio river watershed, how far south is the contaminants going? Pittsburgh, Wheeling, WV., Steubenville, Ohio, all the way to Cincinnati. This is going to be a bigger mess than 3 mile Island!
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2023, 05:38:06 PM »
A link about DIOXIN:
Deadly Dioxin Threat Not Disclosed in Ohio and Florida Chemical Disasters

Definitely a Bad thing going on with toxic/hazmat right now that will  likely affect 1/3 of the USA.

Not good at all.


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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2023, 06:19:46 PM »
Was flipping thru some news before I hit the rack & found a video where the head of the EPA said that they were going to send in some of their "team" to E. Palestine, OH, but needed to wait until it was "safe" to do so.

Hmmm. Waiting for it to be "Safe?", for their team?

What about the folks already living/being there?

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but in My way of thinking, that is admission that the situation there is really bad if they are not willing to send their "team" there.

Not the whole video , but from a timestamp of about 7 minutes in:

https://youtu.be/_5qmXfgGssU?t=436

Whoah~! Never has “We are from the government, and are here to help” seemed more worrisome.  Even the CNN woman in this video doesn’t seem to be buying what EPA Administrator Regan is selling.

Nope... Not good things going on with our "Gubment" as far as this situation is going. Not good at all...

Source of the whole video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5qmXfgGssU

I wonder how long it stay up to watch before someone decides it is not what they want folks to watch.?

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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2023, 02:33:41 AM »
We are seeing the pure evil of our government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWP2uf361gQ
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2023, 05:55:33 AM »
A link about DIOXIN:
Deadly Dioxin Threat Not Disclosed in Ohio and Florida Chemical Disasters

Definitely a Bad thing going on with toxic/hazmat right now that will  likely affect 1/3 of the USA.

Not good at all.
  I didnt know  Dioxins were in Agent Orange . A neighbor of mine passed a few years ago from  some kind of bone cancer ,they said from exposure to Agent Orange while serving in the Air Force . 

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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2023, 06:14:20 AM »
A link about DIOXIN:
Deadly Dioxin Threat Not Disclosed in Ohio and Florida Chemical Disasters

Definitely a Bad thing going on with toxic/hazmat right now that will  likely affect 1/3 of the USA.

Not good at all.

They knew about the dangers of Dioxin when they decided to light the vinyl chloride on fire. Yet they did it anyway.
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2023, 07:15:48 AM »
Here are the changes that were made by the CDC on vinyl chloride just days before the derailment. Could be coincidence, but the response from the federal government to East Palestine being turned into a toxic waste dump makes it suspicious. 

    Removed

        ATSDR Information Center Phone Number

        Highlights section

            Exposure to vinyl chloride occurs mainly in the workplace. Breathing high levels of vinyl chloride for short periods of time can cause dizziness, sleepiness, unconsciousness, and at extremely high levels can cause death. Breathing vinyl chloride for long periods of time can result in permanent liver damage, immune reactions, nerve damage, and liver cancer. This substance has been found in at least 616 of the 1,662 National Priority List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

    "What is vinyl chloride?" section:

        Removed:

            Vinyl chloride is also known as chloroethene, chloroethylene, and ethylene monochloride.

    "How might I be exposed to vinyl chloride?" section:

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            You can also be exposed from cigarette and cigar smoke.

        Changed:

            Drinking water from contaminated wells.

            You can be exposed to very low levels of vinyl chloride in drinking water.

    "How can vinyl chloride affect my health?" Section:

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            The levels of vinyl chloride typically found in the environment are lower than levels known to cause health problems.

            Highly exposed workers have also developed a specific type of cancer known as angiosarcoma of the liver.

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            Some people who work with vinyl chloride have nerve damage and develop immune reactions.

            Some people who work with vinyl chloride have nerve damage and develop alterations in immunity.

            Animal studies have shown that long-term exposure to vinyl chloride can damage the sperm and testes.

            Animal studies have shown that long-term exposure to vinyl chloride can damage the sperm and testes.

    Changed "Can vinyl chloride cause cancer?" Section: to include links instead of description.

        How likely is vinyl chloride to cause cancer?

        The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has determined that vinyl chloride is a known carcinogen. Studies in workers who have breathed vinyl chloride over many years showed an increased risk of liver, brain, lung cancer, and some cancers of the blood have also been observed in workers.

        Can vinyl chloride cause cancer?

        The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) has classified vinyl chloride as known to be a human carcinogen (cause cancer).

        The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has classified vinyl chloride as a known human carcinogen by the inhalation route of exposure. It has also classified it as carcinogenic by the oral route and likely to be carcinogenic by the dermal route.

        The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) determined that vinyl chloride is carcinogenic to humans.

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        How can vinyl chloride affect children?

        It has not been proven that vinyl chloride causes birth defects in humans, but studies in animals suggest that vinyl chloride might affect growth and development. Animal studies also suggest that infants and young children might be more susceptible than adults to vinyl chloride-induced cancer.

        Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health?

        Vinyl chloride is regulated in drinking water, food, and air. The EPA requires that the amount of vinyl chloride in drinking water not exceed 0.002 milligrams per liter (mg/L) of water.

        The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a limit of 1 part vinyl chloride per 1 million parts of air (1 ppm) in the workplace.

        The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates the vinyl chloride content of various plastics. These include plastics that carry liquids and plastics that contact food. The limits for vinyl chloride content vary depending on the nature of the plastic and its use.

        References

        Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). 2006. Toxicological Profile for Vinyl Chloride. Atlanta, GA: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service.

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        Where can I get more information?

        If you have questions or concerns, please contact your community or state health or environmental quality department or:

        For more information, contact: Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry Office of Innovation and Analytics, Toxicology Section 4770 Buford Highway Chamblee, GA 30341-3717 Phone: 1-800-CDC-INFO 888-232-6348 (TTY) Email: Contact CDC-INFO

        ATSDR can also tell you the location of occupational and environmental health clinics. These clinics specialize in recognizing, evaluating, and treating illnesses resulting from exposure to hazardous substances.
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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2023, 02:13:07 PM »
Just heard on the radio that the politicians
are discussing what aid and how much to
send to Turkey
Nothing but crickets concerning aid to the
chemical spill victims

18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

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Re: Ohio Chernobyl..
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2023, 02:52:53 PM »
Just heard on the radio that the politicians
are discussing what aid and how much to
send to Turkey
Nothing but crickets concerning aid to the
chemical spill victims

Putting our country deeper in debt while simultaneously allowing the multiple cancers to destroy our country are the top agenda. If any doubt that STATEMENT? Show me where anything has been done to improve the U.S.A. In the last 2 years since obama rolled in for his third term of making America a third world country.