CRAZYJOES crackdown on ROGUE GUN DEALERS wil do, WHAT??

[powderman]

   
Crazyjoes crackdown on ROGUE GUN DEALERS will do, WHAT??
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-rogue-gun-dealers-violent-crime-spike

Biden crackdown on 'rogue' gun dealers unlikely to stop violent crime
The NRA said Biden is simply playing politics and his zero tolerance policy will not reduce crime
By Peter Hasson , Kelly Laco | Fox News

Fox News Flash top headlines for June 24
President Biden's pledged crackdown on "rogue" gun dealers is unlikely to put a dent in gun crime, only a tiny minority of which is committed with weapons bought from licensed dealers, according to federal statistics and studies on the subject.

The Biden administration on Wednesday announced "zero tolerance" for gun dealers who willfully violate the law, as part of the administration's strategy to combat what the Department of Justice (DOJ) calls a "staggering" surge in violent crime.

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The "zero-tolerance" policy targets federally licensed firearms dealers who "willfully" transfer a weapon to someone prohibited from owning one or ignore a tracing request from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The ATF would seek to revoke the dealer's license after the first offense, a senior White House official said.

Biden, standing next to Attorney General Merrick Garland, told Americans on Wednesday that "enough rogue gun dealers" – whom he described as "merchants of death" – "feel like they can get away with selling guns to people who aren't legally allowed to own them."

But a Fox News review of data on the subject raises serious questions about the extent to which "rogue gun dealers" are driving the nationwide spike in violent crime.


The "zero-tolerance" policy targets federally licensed firearms dealers who "willfully" transfer a weapon to someone prohibited from owning one or ignore a tracing request from the ATF. (ISTOCK)

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A 2016 survey, conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics under DOJ, of federal and state inmates found that the overwhelming majority of inmates who used a gun while committing their crimes didn't buy their weapon from a licensed dealer.

"Among prisoners who possessed a gun during their offense, 90% did not obtain it from a retail source," which includes flea markets and pawn shops, in addition to licensed gun dealers, Department of Justice statisticians noted in a 2019 analysis of that data. Roughly 7% obtained their guns directly from licensed dealers, the analysis noted.

"Of the approximate 7% that purchased their weapon through an FFL [federal firearms licensee], almost 100% of those sales were completed in compliance with the laws and regulations that govern the sale of a firearm, meaning at the time they purchased the firearm, they were most likely not prohibited from doing so," former acting director of the ATF and former county and federal prosecutor Michael Sullivan told Fox News, referring to the DOJ study.

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Similarly, a 2018 Northwestern University study focusing on how Chicago gang members obtained their guns found that "very few gang members buy their guns new from a dealer. Only 2% were purchased directly from an FFL in a documented sale. Of course, that leaves the possibility of undocumented sales, but they also are a minor part of the picture: at most 5% of guns found in the hands of gang members were sold out the back door by 'dirty dealers.'"

Sullivan said that "rogue" federal firearms licensed (FFL) dealers are not the problem and Biden's "political rhetoric" implies that ATF was not already executing its regulatory inspection work, which is untrue.

"Claiming ‘rogue licensed dealers’ are the problem may appease some in the anti-gun community but it is simply not true and not supported by any facts," Sullivan said.

Sullivan said that FFL dealers have been a "valued partner" to ATF and other federal, state, county and local law enforcement agencies and that Biden's announced strategy targeting gun shops will "have no impact in reducing violent crime statistics."

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"Instead of attacking and disparaging these lawful businesses, our leaders should be recognizing them for the work they that have done in creating jobs, having positive impact on our economy, enhancing public safety, and allowing for the exercise of one of our Constitutional rights," said the former acting ATF director.


A spokesperson for the National Rifle Association (NRA) told Fox News in a statement that Biden is simply playing politics and his zero-tolerance policy will not reduce rising crime rates.

"This is a political red herring aimed at hiding the real and abysmal failures of the Biden administration. Crime rates are high because of the efforts to defund the police and a failure to prosecute career criminals. The simple fact is strict enforcement of existing laws - including gun laws - coupled with support of law enforcement and prosecutors to do their jobs would result in a dramatic decrease in crime. But, the president would rather play politics than make Americans safer."

The White House didn't return a request for comment by publication time.

Brooke Singman contributed reporting.

[ironglows]

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   These neo-Marxists are stupid, but not that stupid when it comes to available data and demographics.

  They know full well that legally held guns are not the problem...it is the illegally held guns in the hands of untrained, unsupervised and totally corrupt young gangsters, that are doing the killing.  ..And indirectly, it is not even those guns that are doing the killing... it comes back to "people kill people".

  The neo-Marxists are just hoping they can convince enough lame-brains, that guns are somehow to blame..

   Far beyond the lion's share of the killings are happening in degraded parts of the major cities.

   In my home county almost every home has several guns... Often, each person has several guns of their own,  yet I cannot recall last time I heard of a shooting death in our whole county.

   One would think that being as the bulk of the shootings happening in cities, are done wit handguns, the Demonrats would be after handguns.  In fact, they have been, until recent years..so what has changed?

  Simple.. handguns are not nearly as big a threat to tyrants planning a government coup, as are "assault style" rifles..with large magazines.

[Ranger99]

The real problem is we have thousands
that really shouldn't be running loose,
and should be confined somewhere
away from law abiding citizens who are
no threat to others

The politically correct crowd would make it
a crime to possess a brick that's not mortared
in place to something to prevent it from being
used as a weapon. The Brits have pretty much
taken private ownership of anything they view
as dangerous,  but their crime rate hasn't diminished

[ironglows]

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   For our STUPID neo-Marxist friends..

  1) Bricks do not throw themselves.

  2) Knives do not stab people of their own volition.

  3) Matches do not start fires on their own.

  4) Fists do not just take it into mind, to punch somebody's nose

   5) Guns do not hunt down and shoot people by themselves

      Now hear this stupid Marxists...  In every case there is some PERSON who is guilty ! 

  It would be a STUPID move, to place a fist, matches, knife, brick or gun ..on trial for assault ! 

  Wake up!   Start treating the cause, rather than the symptom.  DUH !!!!
 
 

[powderman]

The real problem is we have thousands
that really shouldn't be running loose,
and should be confined somewhere
away from law abiding citizens who are
no threat to others

The politically correct crowd would make it
a crime to possess a brick that's not mortared
in place to something to prevent it from being
used as a weapon. The Brits have pretty much
taken private ownership of anything they view
as dangerous,  but their crime rate hasn't diminished

I think the brits even outlawewd pointed butcher knives and steak knives. CHARLIE. 

[orerancher]

It ain't about Crime,  It ain't about Safety,  It's about Disarming the American People....
What do the Democrats have in Store for the People of the United States, that They don't want Us to be able to Stop?? 

[Ranger99]

The real problem is we have thousands
that really shouldn't be running loose,
and should be confined somewhere
away from law abiding citizens who are
no threat to others

The politically correct crowd would make it
a crime to possess a brick that's not mortared
in place to something to prevent it from being
used as a weapon. The Brits have pretty much
taken private ownership of anything they view
as dangerous,  but their crime rate hasn't diminished

I think the brits even outlawewd pointed butcher knives and steak knives. CHARLIE. 

At one time, the last I'd heard of the
issue, they were considering requiring
a citizen to show a genuine need to
have a pointy knife, or a pointy knife
of such-and-such length or something
stupid like that

[Ranger99]

As far as I know,  there's not
been a straw purchaser case
prosecuted by the feds in years

And here they are blubbering about
crooked dealers and such doodoo?

I guess everybody's forgotten about the
gubmint knowingly selling guns to the
cartels as a " setup" ?

[Davyboy]

Hundreds of Millions of guns in the USA, in private ownership.  If 'guns' were really the problem, things would be a lot worse!
The media and the politicians stirring up hatred and anger are the real threats to our country.

[powderman]

Hundreds of Millions of guns in the USA, in private ownership.  If 'guns' were really the problem, things would be a lot worse!
The media and the politicians stirring up hatred and anger are the real threats to our country.

The problem in America is not GUNS, It's PUNKS without GOD in their lives. Osama fought AGAINST Christians for 8 LOOONG years, an entire generation was brainwashed against Christianity, Crosses, the 10 commandments, prayers, and CHURCH. HE damaged America more than ANY potus EVER. CHARLIE. 

[Lloyd Smale]

this bs isnt just in the lab of biden. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO VOTED FOR HIM is to blame just as much as he is.

[magooch]

I know that we should not try to make any sense out of the stupid things that come out of the mouth of Joe Biden, but his idiotic statement that "No one needs a gun that can fire up to 100 rounds."  Okay, that was not exactly a quote, but it is exactly what Joe meant to say.

I say, read the Constitution.  The part about a well regulated militia just might well be as necessary as any other time in our history.  If that day comes when a civilian force is needed to fend off the enemies from within as well as invaders; we will need to be as well armed as is practical.  Fire power will be an important issue.  And then there is that pesky little statement about "Shall not be infringed."

Anyone who believes in the founding principles of this country should know that those who wrote the Constitution meant what it says.  That doesn't mean it can never be changed, but there is a method for doing that and it is not left to a single person, or political party.  If the commies are committed to disarming our citizens give an Amendment a try, or better yet, just go live in a dick tatorship somewhere else.